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Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

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Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#51

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Re: top-level domain, there's a good number of universities on the list. https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db It's about $200k.

I think it's pretty cool! Would definitely matter to me from a "what school should I go to" standpoint.

Really? I would prefer to go to a school that spend money on useful stuff.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#52
post #14

Not to be the usual skeptic, but "scientifically designed" doesn't really-really mean (at least to me) "designed by scientists" (which this thingy is). I mean, nice and all, but what about some actual tests/reports of it actually being noticeably better at remembering what you have read? The concept is very nice and interesting, but besides it: >The science of Sans Forgetica >Sans Forgetica is more difficult to read…

Right, I would want to see a study comparing people's ability to remember things written in this and another font before I believe any claims.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#53
It's having the opposite effect on me. I usually remember images outright(including the shape the letters took, word positions, some smudged portion of the page, other defects, etc.) and read it out mentally in real-time as I need it. This font is completely messing with my mnemonic. I have trouble visualizing anything I write in it.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#54
post #45

> Sans Forgetica is more difficult to read than most typefaces – and that’s by design. The 'desirable difficulty' you experience when reading information formatted in Sans Forgetica prompts your brain to engage in deeper processing. But does the effectiveness of this hold up over time or will your brain get accustomed to the font after a while such that reading it eventually becomes no different than reading whatever…

> But does the effectiveness of this hold up over time or will your brain get accustomed to the font after a while I would posit that this might be true if everything was in sans forgetica, but since only your notes should be in that font, then it will likely retain it's utility over time. Is the goal that you type these notes in SF and hope the font trains you to remember? There was a scene in the video where someon…

I write notes to re-explain the material in my own words and test my understanding. Then, once I'm sure I've got it right, I read the notes and use them as reference.

Writing in a normal font and then switching to Sans Forgetica to read/study the notes would be my use-case.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#56
post #40

I tweeted about this yesterday, from the article: > "Students remembered 57 per cent ... written in Sans Forgetica, compared to 50 per cent .... in Ariel" 7% delta retention isn't so much, is it?

You also have to factor in reading speed. If you can remember 7% more but end up reading more than 14% slower, you are better off reading more (or rereading) with the lower 50% retention rate.

That's not entirely valid. There is SOME number where it may not be beneficial because another learning technique would be more efficient, but having to read slower isn't a problem of itself if there goal is simply "get better at retaining this information".

Also, there's a certain point where the delta is relevant enough to justify the extra effort invested (things involving safety/security for example).

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#57
> Sans Forgetica is more difficult to read than most typefaces – and that’s by design. The 'desirable difficulty' you experience when reading information formatted in Sans Forgetica prompts your brain to engage in deeper processing

Based on this logic - harder the process better the processing - its obviously a mistake that schools are increasingly using technology to teach, like visualizing geometric shapes on screen in 3D instead of painstakingly drawing on the board and letting students see it in their heads.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#58

I thought it was something to do with forging essays or something similar as I kept reading it as Forge-tica. I always thought the use of study notes was just in writing them to stimulate memory, not actually reading them (for me at least).

I had the same problem with the name, although in my case I attributed it to associating it with FontForge.

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#59
post #14

Not to be the usual skeptic, but "scientifically designed" doesn't really-really mean (at least to me) "designed by scientists" (which this thingy is). I mean, nice and all, but what about some actual tests/reports of it actually being noticeably better at remembering what you have read? The concept is very nice and interesting, but besides it: >The science of Sans Forgetica >Sans Forgetica is more difficult to read…

I tried to find a paper or something on it, nothing (don't actually know how to search for papers, no scientist).

I checked the credits on https://mumbrella.com.au/naked-creates-font-for-rmit-which-i... where i see no psychology anything but maybe Behavioural Business Lab. Granted, this was no list of the scientists working on it, but there sure seems to be a lot of marketing and brand management involved.

I can't be sure on this one, but it seems adding science to a claim is just a good marketing practice.

Are there science news sites that add paper references or something to fact check against, to their articles?

Re: Sans Forgetica, a font designed to help you remember your study notes

#60
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it's true that all fonts eventually approach the same level of easy readability. Yes, you will get better at reading this font than you were at reading this font initially, but probably you still won't be able to read it as fast as you can read some other font.

This font has easily distinguishable glyphs for all letters. Some fonts make "Ill" looks like ||| and it's still possible to read most texts written in such fonts easily. Considering that it's possible to learn to read a completely different alphabet, I'm not convinced that there's anything to font legibility besides familiarity, so long as all glyphs are distinguishable.

I agree. Maybe this effect will only work if you rotate fonts every so often to one you're not familiar with. If this effect works at all.
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