As a nation, we need to unite against the external threat of China. Russia and Israel are fine. China is the number one problem sowing discord in this country.
Ok why not all of them?
The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate Amazon and Apple
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#492Earlier quoted context omitted.
> To achieve this, the keyboard and the display is galvanically separated for the duration of the PIN entry Perhaps this sounds too dull to ask, but what stops the terminal from just ... not separating the keyboard and display?
Certification. Worked in the same industry, and there were very strict both hardware and software requirements for POS software. Having gone trough credit-card audits, early EMV certification programs, and certification to place non-payment software next to payment software on such systems, I can tell you - it's no joke :)
> I can tell you - it's no joke :)
But still as a user I have no idea if I'm talking to a certified machine or not.
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#493Stories like these make me think there is a real need for electronic devices made entirely in the US (or your preferred trusted country).
Products like the Yubikey are apparently made in the US / Sweden, but I wonder how many components are actually made elsewhere and just assembled in these countries. Are there any good examples of consumer devices actually made entirely in the US down to the microchip?
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#494Anyone have a mirror of the article? I can't read it behind Bloomberg's computational paywall.
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#495Re: The Big Hack: How China Used a Tiny Chip to Infiltrate Amazon and Apple
#496I have worked in card payment industry. We would be getting products from China with added boards to beam credit card information. This wasn't state-sponsored attack. Devices were modified while on production line (most likely by bribed employees) as once they were closed they would have anti-tampering mechanism activated so that later it would not be possible to open the device without setting the tamper flag. Once…
Maybe time to buy your financial hardware from somewhere not china?
I know it's nice to blame China for everything... but it's not really the root of the problem here, supply chain management and control is.
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#497Earlier quoted context omitted.
Assuming Bloomberg's story is true, I wonder what reason Apple has to hide. Not wanting to upset relations with the PRC govt?
> I wonder what reason Apple has to hide. The perception is that Apple is perfect and worth paying 3x the cost? EDIT: Curious if all of these Apple comments are going to disappear. I believe they have a strong marketing team to hide dissent.
Or people recognize that statements like "The perception is that Apple is perfect and worth paying 3x the cost?" are hyperbolic nonsense.
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#498Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your point being ?
I think the point is that actual honesty from these megacorps would be so surprising that even raising the possibility of it happening is so absurd it feels like parody writing.
Last week Facebook was reasonably transparent about a hack affecting tens of millions of users.
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#499I hate leaving a brief unsubstantiated comment, but this is the new Cold War and I think it needs to be acknowledged as such and brought out of the dark.
I don’t want my intelligence agencies fighting a war we aren’t even publically acknowledging and subjecting to public congressional oversight. I don’t trust Congress, but I trust the NSA/CIA far, far less.
The economic sanctions against China are disproportionality minuscule if they are meant as a response to this level of attack.
If this is true, it should be proven in a court of law and trade sanctions should be a positive integer trillions of dollars.
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#500Statements from Amazon, Apple, Supermicro and Chinese government. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-04/the-big-h... From Apple: "Over the course of the past year, Bloomberg has contacted us multiple times with claims, sometimes vague and sometimes elaborate, of an alleged security incident at Apple. Each time, we have conducted rigorous internal investigations based on their inquiries and each time we h…
What liars. Apple has done this before as well, when they said they had "never heard" of PRISM, despite a Snowden leak showing the exact opposite. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants...
Weren't they uner a gag order? Even if not that's a risky thing to acknowledge.