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Re: Presidential Alerts

#61

I accidentally swiped it on the iPhone lock screen and now it's gone. I don't see it in my notifications. Is there a way to find it?

Dunno if it's the same on an iPhone, but on Android it shows up in my texting app

Not on galaxy s7.. can you reply to the message? :o

Re: Presidential Alerts

#62
post #58

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Used correctly, these should be so infrequent that there's no legitimate reason to disable them. This is a broadcast, not a data collection, and if a missile is headed in your general area, literally every capable device should be telling you about it.

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How are you opting out of the air raid sirens?

Re: Presidential Alerts

#63
post #25

It was a bit odd to have every cellphone in a hallway go off with the same tone. I guess some folks weren't watching the news and didn't get word before hand.

> I guess some folks weren't watching the news and didn't get word before hand. How would have knowing about it changed anything if you can't opt out?

Well, they probably wouldn't have that TV disaster momentary panic. It is really not normal to have a bunch of devices go off at once.

Re: Presidential Alerts

#64

It was a bit odd to have every cellphone in a hallway go off with the same tone. I guess some folks weren't watching the news and didn't get word before hand.

I guess some folks weren't watching the news Some folks tend to do that at work, yes.

You know darn well I mean heard about it ahead of time.

Re: Presidential Alerts

#65
post #62
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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How are you opting out of the air raid sirens?

You don't own air raid sirens, and you can't stop others from installing them.

You do own your phone (in theory, at least). You should have full authority over what that phone does or doesn't do.

Re: Presidential Alerts

#66

"Presidential Alerts" is a terrible name in a time where presidents from either party tend to have about 40% approval or less. The name just automatically angers a significant portion of the population, no matter who the president happens to be. Considering that the presidency is a political position, it's not unreasonable to expect "Presidential Alerts" to be of a political nature, even though that is not how the sy…

From https://twitter.com/dmelvin3737/status/1047557154729840646

The "Presidential" alert is the level of alert. It's been named this for over a decade, but none have ever been sent.

The levels are :

AMBER alert

Severe alerts

Extreme alerts

Presidential alerts

Re: Presidential Alerts

#67

A bunch of us just got one. SERIOUSLY? Does it _HAVE_ _TO_ say "presidential alert"? Do I have to be reminded of "him" during a time of potential crisis? What could "Cheeto-Satan" have to say in a real emergency that is of any value whatsoever?

The content is written by FEMA, not the president. The title on the alert is misleading.

Given his penchant for selecting "the best people" for top jobs in government, I'd expect whoever signed off on this at FEMA to be a slimy Trump sycophant that's probably about to be fired anyway for colossal incompetence.

Yep-- Brock Long.

Re: Presidential Alerts

#68
post #45

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Probably because Google and Apple make essentially every phone in use and they agreed to ignore your settings in favor of the President's. I guess the benefit of not having control is that you can't be accused of being a jerk for having it go off during a movie or in court or whatever, since you have no choice.

So this is just something Apple/Google agreed on? Or is this some US law that requires Apple/Google to ship devices without an option to turn this off?

Yes, this is the result of a law, the Warning, Alert, and Response Network (WARN) Act which was passed by Congress back in 2006. See https://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=632941 for details.

Re: Presidential Alerts

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post #66

"Presidential Alerts" is a terrible name in a time where presidents from either party tend to have about 40% approval or less. The name just automatically angers a significant portion of the population, no matter who the president happens to be. Considering that the presidency is a political position, it's not unreasonable to expect "Presidential Alerts" to be of a political nature, even though that is not how the sy…

From https://twitter.com/dmelvin3737/status/1047557154729840646 The "Presidential" alert is the level of alert. It's been named this for over a decade, but none have ever been sent. The levels are : AMBER alert Severe alerts Extreme alerts Presidential alerts

I'll bikeshed this; I'd rather see the latter ones titled as "Local emergency", "State emergency", "National emergency". What sort of intuition are we supposed to have for the difference between a severe and an extreme emergency?
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