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Nobel Prize in Chemistry Is Awarded to 3 Evolutionary Scientists

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Re: Nobel Prize in Chemistry Is Awarded to 3 Evolutionary Scientists

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Very excited about this Nobel - it recognizes a practical but extremely useful set of tools that are the backbone of modern therapeutic development, on one hand (phage display) and have proven immensely useful to improving protein design and engineering, on the other. It's also great to see improved representation from the Nobels this year: female winners in both chemistry and physics (where there have been respectiv…

FWIW, it seems to me that Nobel prize winners are not typically on the TED circuit. Though most do have large labs. That is usually indicative of the fruitful research that leads to the Nobel prize later.

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It's definitely inciting, but so is spewing anti-scientific and ignorant one-liners

You need to behave yourself and love Material Design, or the mods will not be happy with you.

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This has not been a good Nobel year for Wikipedia.

First, yesterday, we find that Physics winner Donna Strickland did not have a page. She had one four years ago briefly, but it had been quickly deleted on notability grounds.

And now today we get a Chemistry winner, George P. Smith, who also did not have a page--not even an old deleted page. His first page was created this morning after the Prize was announced.

This also happened last year, also in Chemistry, with Jacques Dubochet.

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They're never going to give it to John Goodenough. :(

Reuters publishes an annual list of its picks for the Nobel prize. Goodenough was listed way back in 2015. I just hope his solid state battery turns out to be viable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarivate_Citation_Laureates, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13916255

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This has not been a good Nobel year for Wikipedia. First, yesterday, we find that Physics winner Donna Strickland did not have a page. She had one four years ago briefly, but it had been quickly deleted on notability grounds. And now today we get a Chemistry winner, George P. Smith, who also did not have a page--not even an old deleted page. His first page was created this morning after the Prize was announced. This…

I don't see what the problem is. Should every published scientist have a wikipedia page? It's not obvious that they should, not every scientist is notable to the general public. The fact that they received a Nobel doesn't mean they were notable before they received the Nobel.

Re: Nobel Prize in Chemistry Is Awarded to 3 Evolutionary Scientists

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This has not been a good Nobel year for Wikipedia. First, yesterday, we find that Physics winner Donna Strickland did not have a page. She had one four years ago briefly, but it had been quickly deleted on notability grounds. And now today we get a Chemistry winner, George P. Smith, who also did not have a page--not even an old deleted page. His first page was created this morning after the Prize was announced. This…

I don't see what the problem is. Should every published scientist have a wikipedia page? It's not obvious that they should, not every scientist is notable to the general public. The fact that they received a Nobel doesn't mean they were notable before they received the Nobel.

> "The fact that they received a Nobel doesn't mean they were notable before they received the Nobel."

It does, pretty much by definition of a Nobel prize.

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I don't see what the problem is. Should every published scientist have a wikipedia page? It's not obvious that they should, not every scientist is notable to the general public. The fact that they received a Nobel doesn't mean they were notable before they received the Nobel.

> "The fact that they received a Nobel doesn't mean they were notable before they received the Nobel." It does, pretty much by definition of a Nobel prize.

What I can see happening sometimes is that the author doesn't have a page, but the page on the science clearly cites the person that ended up winning the Nobel.

In this case, the Wikipedia article on chirped pulse amplification has cited Donna Strickland as a co-inventor since 2008 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chirped_pulse_amp...).

For phage displays, George P. Smith is not mentioned but at least cited as far back as 2008 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phage_display&old...). By 2012, George P. Smith is directly mentioned. (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phage_display&old...)

Re: Nobel Prize in Chemistry Is Awarded to 3 Evolutionary Scientists

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I don't see what the problem is. Should every published scientist have a wikipedia page? It's not obvious that they should, not every scientist is notable to the general public. The fact that they received a Nobel doesn't mean they were notable before they received the Nobel.

> "The fact that they received a Nobel doesn't mean they were notable before they received the Nobel." It does, pretty much by definition of a Nobel prize.

Notable in this context meaning notable to the general public. But wikipedia isn't for original research, and so it needs some external institution to validate notability to the general public. A Nobel prize is one such mechanism.
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