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Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

> Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt

Because it is.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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post #61

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

> Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt Because it is.

The UN disagrees.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could see myself doing this a few years from now. Does a Gaza stamp in your passport limit someone's entry into other countries? (eg USA)

In Germany you can have a second pass just for that purpose. It costs more though.

I see this recommendation quite often and wonder if you get in trouble sooner or later, at least if you want to travel to the US. I would think the purpose of a passport is a single identification with a track record. Everything else is cheating. Not?

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt Because it is.

The UN disagrees.

> The UN disagrees.

The UN is a political animal controlled by political interests.

Common sense can be used here. Gaza shares more border with Egypt than with Israel.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany you can have a second pass just for that purpose. It costs more though.

I see this recommendation quite often and wonder if you get in trouble sooner or later, at least if you want to travel to the US. I would think the purpose of a passport is a single identification with a track record. Everything else is cheating. Not?

That's rather part of the point. Many of the countries that offer a second passport believe in freer travel than some destination countries might.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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In case you missed Manish Sinha’s “Mentoring in Gaza's first hackathon” in 2016, it is an insightful perspective that complements this article. http://dopeboy.github.io/gaza/ EDIT Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11858963

Thanks for the shout out. Happy to extend that AMA here in case I missed anything.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany you can have a second pass just for that purpose. It costs more though.

I see this recommendation quite often and wonder if you get in trouble sooner or later, at least if you want to travel to the US. I would think the purpose of a passport is a single identification with a track record. Everything else is cheating. Not?

Sure it is but let's be honest here, a terrorist will find a way and most of those people who suffer under this mad apparatus of fear are normal people. You just need a way to bypass this madness for the sake of reality.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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post #2

Having worked closely with GSG for the last few years and done 2 trips there to mentor and host workshops, I would encourage anybody who has the time and interest in sharing their knowledge to reach out to them and help them. As the saying goes that constraint breeds creativity, I have never meet a more energetic, enthusiastic bunch of people who just want to make themselves useful and build something that they can b…

What kind of help do they require? I'd like to help but actually travelling to Gaza and risk getting stuck there is a bit outside of my comfort zone.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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post #51

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

The mental gymnastics here are required for the other side too, e.g. elections were last held in Gaza in 2006 or so; it's not remotely a democracy or republic, control is maintained by violence, see e.g. [0]. Every side of this conflict is a villain, and depending how far back you want to go, that may include the British, who created war and instability where they pulled out, in Palestine and in India/Pakistan (smart…

Gaza doesn't have true autonomy, though. The people of Gaza can't actually vote in the elections that matter to them, i.e. those of Israel. Israel controls the airspace, the ports, and much of the land while claiming they've "disengaged."

There's no basis for a free government when the people can't exercise any kind of sovereignty.

Re: Gaza: Coding in a conflict zone

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post #61

That's an incredible article. It must have taken some amazing mental gymnastics to talk about the situation in Gaza and Palestine without laying any responsibility at the feet of Israel. Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt, or the same as the EU. Lets be clear, Israel's behaviour marks it out as an exception internationally. Israel has turned Gaza into an open air prison. Israel's blockade…

> Instead the Israeli stance is noted as being the same as Egypt Because it is.

Egypt doesn't control Gaza airspace or ports. Israel does.
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