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Bill to ban bots impersonating people for telemarketing and influencing election

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Re: Bill to ban bots impersonating people for telemarketing and influencing election

#81

If people are so easily swayed then perhaps they are just idiots? There are some cold & hard facts advocates of democracy need to look at. These problems can't be legislatively swept under the rug.

Agreed. Why not get ahead of the problem and focus on teaching our kids critical thinking skills? But then again, why would the government cut off their primary revenue supply?

Re: Bill to ban bots impersonating people for telemarketing and influencing election

#82

I'm for this, but how is it enforceable? Companies have teams dedicated to this and are still thwarted. I don't see California Government as leader in technology. But maybe I'm wrong. I do see them as a leader in overbudget, late, and often failing projects. So while this sounds good, I don't see it being good.

My theory is it finally gives teeth to enforcement? Now botting could have actual real world penalties other than just getting banned from Twitter.

Not that it matters to international bots but if the USA follows...

Re: Bill to ban bots impersonating people for telemarketing and influencing election

#83
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I think there are privacy regulations that prevent the phone company from deanonymizing a caller without a warrant. Or at least that’s the excuse I’ve heard cited before.

If you are on the do not call list a warrant SHOULD be easy to get though.

I'll give it a shot, I get about five per day.

Re: Bill to ban bots impersonating people for telemarketing and influencing election

#84

If people are so easily swayed then perhaps they are just idiots? There are some cold & hard facts advocates of democracy need to look at. These problems can't be legislatively swept under the rug.

The people who developed democracy never accounted for the weapons grade marketing and persuasion we are capable of today.

That's why they designed it based on principles.

Re: Bill to ban bots impersonating people for telemarketing and influencing election

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I'm all for this...but can we just ban telemarketing entirely? Why is that even allowed? I've always thought that the law should be written such that telemarketing is legal, but if you engage in it, it is no longer illegal to murder you. You can do it, but you lose your murder protection.

It should at least require that a human initiates and terminates every single call.

What does that mean, exactly? Does the human have to whistle the DTMF frequencies into a handset to initiate the call, or can they use a machine that generates those tones when buttons are pressed? Can a machine automatically press the buttons? If so, how is that different from what is allowed today?

Re: Bill to ban bots impersonating people for telemarketing and influencing election

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are on the do not call list a warrant SHOULD be easy to get though.

I'll give it a shot, I get about five per day.

Good luck. It seems like it should be possible to track these people down, but the effort is high enough that I just can't get the energy to bother.

Re: Bill to ban bots impersonating people for telemarketing and influencing election

#89

So, robots have no rights to convey messages to humans? Is that so? It might be a wiser option to enhance control over ownership of robots instead.

Why should robots have any rights at all?

Presumably we would want actual artificial intelligence to have rights, right? I'm no fan of slavery over a conscious being.

Re: Bill to ban bots impersonating people for telemarketing and influencing election

#90

bill to ban bots xD... and then suddenly the ability to identify them consistently and correctly apears out of the blue <3

You're telling me you can't tell the difference between a person and a recording over the phone?

The article is more about Twitter bots and the like.

I'm assuming this gives enough teeth to law enforcement for, say, Twitter to turn over records I sure hope it has on who is botting on their website.

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