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Why I’m Worried About Google

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Re: Why I’m Worried About Google

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Post by janpot »

This bothers me a little bit

> By clicking “Agree,” you consent to Slate’s Terms of Service and Privacy Policy and the use of technologies such as cookies by Slate and our partners to deliver relevant advertising on our site, in emails and across the Internet, to personalize content and perform site analytics. Please see our Privacy Policy for more information about our use of data, your rights, and how to withdraw consent.

I need to consent to have your website show me "relevant advertising across the Internet". If you can't take my privacy seriously, how should I take your concerns about Google and privacy seriously?

Re: Why I’m Worried About Google

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Post by orf »

sinaz wrote: post #7
orf wrote: post #2

Firefox.

Which has a few privacy scandals of its own. Marginally better than Chrome, not a silver bullet.

Can you elaborate as to why it is "marginally better than Chrome" please.

You could start by explaining how a privacy focused nonprofit is marginally worse than a multi-billion dollar advertising company with regards to privacy.

Re: Why I’m Worried About Google

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Post by paulryanrogers »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #9
sinaz wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which has a few privacy scandals of its own. Marginally better than Chrome, not a silver bullet.

Marginally better than Chrome That's a gross misrepresentation.

Are you saying you think it's much better or much worse?

Re: Why I’m Worried About Google

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Post by mxuribe »

I have already begun to vote (against Google) with my feet/fingertips. I realize that even if I use non-Google products/services - much like the Kevin Bacon game - I'm only so many degrees away. But still, I feel i have at least a little more agency over my data. If I do this (move away from google), and then another person does this, and then another...eventually if many more do this, there could be a dent; which would hopefully more positively influence google (AND others like google); in essence manually move Adam smith's supposed invisible hand.

Re: Why I’m Worried About Google

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Post by Klathmon »

demxzy wrote: post #5
orf wrote: post #2

Firefox.

Firefox is looking more like a very good insurance policy going forward privacy-wise. I would like to see more open source browsers though. It feels like we are getting nearer and nearer to browser mono cultures with all the chromium clones. Maybe Ms can release edge as an opensource app with it being far behind in adoption.

I believe the Edge team is actively working on open sourcing the whole browser. They have already open-sourced the JS engine behind it [0], and they worked on some integrations with other things (IIRC there was an experiment with node using the chakra engine instead of V8).

I'm with you though, I really hope this opens back up into an all out competition between 3 or more big players. And I think firefox is in a great position to take up the "top" spot in terms of security, performance, and resource usage. They have been "paying their dues" for a while now working on that stuff, and it's starting to pay off. And if they gambled right, they might just have an architecture that is overall better than Chrome's, who will be stuck with the cruft they've slowly built up over the years.

[0] https://github.com/Microsoft/ChakraCore

Re: Why I’m Worried About Google

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Post by simion314 »

janpot wrote: post #11

This bothers me a little bit > By clicking “Agree,” you consent to Slate’s Terms of Service and Privacy Policy and the use of technologies such as cookies by Slate and our partners to deliver relevant advertising on our site, in emails and across the Internet, to personalize content and perform site analytics. Please see our Privacy Policy for more information about our use of data, your rights, and how to withdraw c…

Same here, so I always close the tab.

Re: Why I’m Worried About Google

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Post by decasteve »

I wonder if, in a couple of generations from now, we’ll be browsing private messages, emails, browsing history, etc—all the “private” details that Google et al, have amassed—much in the same way the Stasi files are available now.

Re: Why I’m Worried About Google

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Post by Valmar »

sinaz wrote: post #7
orf wrote: post #2

Firefox.

Which has a few privacy scandals of its own. Marginally better than Chrome, not a silver bullet.

"Scandals" which have been nothing more than a bunch of idiots completely misunderstanding and/or misrepresenting what Mozilla is actually doing.

Mozilla does not have a history remotely related to any sort of privacy violations, except in the eyes of those who think that literally anything to do with "telemetry" or "advertizing" is automatically evil.

Problem is, you can have non-privacy-invasive and non-malicious telemetry and advertizing.

Google and Microsoft are particularly nasty in this regard. But don't extrapolate their behaviour onto Mozilla.

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