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Donna Strickland won her Nobel prize in Physics before she got a wikipedia page

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Re: Donna Strickland won her Nobel prize in Physics before she got a wikipedia page

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Right now, there are something around 20 article on the front page of Wikipedia, about half of them connected to recent news or anniversaries (birthdays, historic events, etc.) There are about 5.6 million articles in Wikipedia, it says. So how far would a Wikipedia page about Donna Strickland have contributed to her fame among those of us who are not physicists? And would the physicists among us have needed Wikipedia to learn about her?

Re: Donna Strickland won her Nobel prize in Physics before she got a wikipedia page

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Did anyone else hear her interview on BBC radio? They ended by asking why she hadn't applied to be a full professor yet, and she clearly didn't want to talk about it. Wonder what's going on there.

Edit: this episode https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w172w25chfb2c1f Interview starts at 12:55, awkward question at 16:45

Re: Donna Strickland won her Nobel prize in Physics before she got a wikipedia page

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Right now, there are something around 20 article on the front page of Wikipedia, about half of them connected to recent news or anniversaries (birthdays, historic events, etc.) There are about 5.6 million articles in Wikipedia, it says. So how far would a Wikipedia page about Donna Strickland have contributed to her fame among those of us who are not physicists? And would the physicists among us have needed Wikipedia…

the other two winners, male, had pages https://twitter.com/clancynewyork/status/1047098079097380864, there's a broader argument about bias here

Re: Donna Strickland won her Nobel prize in Physics before she got a wikipedia page

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https://www.theguardian.com/science/live/2018/oct/02/nobel-p...

“Sumner says the fact that Strickland’s Wikipedia page has only appeared today is telling.

“It took a Nobel prize for Donna Strickland to be noticed enough to have a (short) Wikipedia page written about her. Another example of how womens’ contributions to science go unnoticed and uncelebrated,” she says. “It takes the science equivalent of an Oscar for a woman in Stem [science, technology engineering and mathematics] to get noticed!””

Re: Donna Strickland won her Nobel prize in Physics before she got a wikipedia page

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Right now, there are something around 20 article on the front page of Wikipedia, about half of them connected to recent news or anniversaries (birthdays, historic events, etc.) There are about 5.6 million articles in Wikipedia, it says. So how far would a Wikipedia page about Donna Strickland have contributed to her fame among those of us who are not physicists? And would the physicists among us have needed Wikipedia…

the other two winners, male, had pages https://twitter.com/clancynewyork/status/1047098079097380864 , there's a broader argument about bias here

I'd be curious who made those two or if it was themselves.

Re: Donna Strickland won her Nobel prize in Physics before she got a wikipedia page

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Per the deletion log there was an article on her in '14 that an administrator deleted due to unambiguous copyright infringement. It seems no one ever took interest in taking it up after that.

The speedy deletion process has always made me a bit uncomfortable, I wish there was any kind of public information about that deletion besides the deletion comment which consists of a single template without further info.

Re: Donna Strickland won her Nobel prize in Physics before she got a wikipedia page

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Right now, there are something around 20 article on the front page of Wikipedia, about half of them connected to recent news or anniversaries (birthdays, historic events, etc.) There are about 5.6 million articles in Wikipedia, it says. So how far would a Wikipedia page about Donna Strickland have contributed to her fame among those of us who are not physicists? And would the physicists among us have needed Wikipedia…

the other two winners, male, had pages https://twitter.com/clancynewyork/status/1047098079097380864 , there's a broader argument about bias here

I think the strongest bias in this case is favoring advisors over the students who do the work, even if they get first authorship.

For example, the Alex of AlexNet [1] fame would be Alex Krizhevsky, if he were actually famous. He doesn't have a Wikipedia page, but his advisor Geoffrey Hinton does (and is famous for the AlexNet breakthrough).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlexNet

Re: Donna Strickland won her Nobel prize in Physics before she got a wikipedia page

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Right now, there are something around 20 article on the front page of Wikipedia, about half of them connected to recent news or anniversaries (birthdays, historic events, etc.) There are about 5.6 million articles in Wikipedia, it says. So how far would a Wikipedia page about Donna Strickland have contributed to her fame among those of us who are not physicists? And would the physicists among us have needed Wikipedia…

the other two winners, male, had pages https://twitter.com/clancynewyork/status/1047098079097380864 , there's a broader argument about bias here

How can an encyclopedia that anyone can edit be biased?

Anyone could have added her page, no one did, until now.

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