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Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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Re: Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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A good object lesson in what happens if you unionize. Edit: Ooh, downvotes. Hi Amazon

I missed this story from earlier. Did they actually unionize? Or were they in the early stages of unionizing?

There were unionization efforts nationwide, including a somewhat wide dissemination of boycotting on the "Prime Day" sale and appropriate lists of demands including proper access to restrooms and raising of the wages.

Re: Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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I mean, they get such bad press for the way they treat their workers it only seems fair to laud them for this. Good move. They have more to do though. I've went through a few articles on this but I didn't see any of them mention what Amazon's minimum actual pay was before this, just the federal minimum wage. Anybody know?

For what it's worth, someone on reddit says $12

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/9kpeal/amazon_raises_...

Re: Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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While this is a very welcome development it would be more impressive to see them reform their slave like fulfilment center work practises. Employees are forced to walk massive distances, have their every move tracked and are penalised for taking bathroom breaks. I doubt many people in Silicon Valley would consider $15 an hour a fair compensation for the oppressive work conditions.

Re: Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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I mean, they get such bad press for the way they treat their workers it only seems fair to laud them for this. Good move. They have more to do though. I've went through a few articles on this but I didn't see any of them mention what Amazon's minimum actual pay was before this, just the federal minimum wage. Anybody know?

Did Amazon actually pay any worse or have worse working conditions than any other unskilled warehouse job?

If so, why didn’t the employees change jobs?

If not, why is so much criticism directed at Amazon specifically, rather than at capitalism itself?

Re: Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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partially funded by the removal of RSU stock grants

I agree with their assertion that hourly employees "prefer the predictability and immediacy of cash to RSUs."

$15/hr still isn't much. $30K year. Sure, it would be nice to get a fat payday down the road. People living on low wages have much more immediate needs.

Why wait for a (maybe) payout, if you can't feed your kids today?

Re: Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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>In addition, the company also pledges its public policy team will lobby for an increase to the federal minimum wage from $7.25 — it doesn’t identify a specific wage that it’s targeting, but instead says, “We believe $7.25 is too low. We would look to Congress to decide the parameters of a new, higher federal minimum wage.”

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume it will be $15/hour. That way they'll get to look progressive for adopting this wage early, while mitigating their competitive disadvantage by forcing every other company to raise their wages too eventually.

Re: Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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They must have automated enough, or shifted enough work to contractors that this is now materially not a big deal.

Economies of scale alone gives them an advantage, however it's probable at minimum they know they won't need many more employees in the future - who can instead be supported by autonomous systems to manage increased throughput.

Re: Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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I mean, they get such bad press for the way they treat their workers it only seems fair to laud them for this. Good move. They have more to do though. I've went through a few articles on this but I didn't see any of them mention what Amazon's minimum actual pay was before this, just the federal minimum wage. Anybody know?

Did Amazon actually pay any worse or have worse working conditions than any other unskilled warehouse job? If so, why didn’t the employees change jobs? If not, why is so much criticism directed at Amazon specifically, rather than at capitalism itself?

Surely "this trillion dollar company led by the world's richest man pays its workers peanuts" is a criticism of capitalism?

Re: Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees

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post #14

While this is a very welcome development it would be more impressive to see them reform their slave like fulfilment center work practises. Employees are forced to walk massive distances, have their every move tracked and are penalised for taking bathroom breaks. I doubt many people in Silicon Valley would consider $15 an hour a fair compensation for the oppressive work conditions.

Walking long distances isn't much of an issue. The human body is very well adapted to it (or built for it, depending on who you ask). Having a job that forces you to do it is good for your health.

It's forcing people who might not be in the best of shape to be bending over, reaching, lifting, etc, etc all day that results in health problems.

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