There are a lot of words in this document. What we need is some infographics that boil it down into something people without the time to read and parse all of those findings can understand easily. A map showing vulnerable states, some pictures showing how easy it is to circumvent a particular system. Something that shows what percentage of machines are vulnerable and an easy way to know if the machines in my district…
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#22The conclusion: Over the last 26 years, DEF CON, and for the last two years, the Voting Village, have operated under two core principles: 1. It is important to derive facts through reason and inquiry rather than blind faith. 2. When we discover new facts, it’s important we share this information with the general public so individuals can decide how best to use the information. We did not make these principles up ours…
> it takes about six minutes to vote Why does voting take 6 minutes? I think I used a voting machine maybe once in my life (in the Netherlands and apparently young enough to not have used those more often). Casting a vote on paper is usually checking a box with a red pencil, takes maybe a minute of dealing with the huge sheet of paper with all the candidates. Just curious.
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#23It may not appear to be important whether any one of the authors/participants is or is not part of, e.g., a member of the "resistance" domestic political seditious insurgency that stole it's slogan from Infowars, or part of the organization that the department of homeland security has designated as a domestic terrorist organization called AntiFA (Anti First Amendment); but reality simply is that the nexus of this issue, voting, is very much tied into both of those malignant movements in the USA and both have direct ties to the efforts to disintegrate the USA by nullifying national borders and advancing the invasion of national territories and communities by foreign national citizens of other countries.
So any objective and rational and reasonable investigation of the voting issue would demand transparency as to the perspective of these contributors, investigators, and authors ... especially since they are first and foremost also active in the suppression of free speech all over the internet, including here.
You didn't see any discussion of the singularly biggest vulnerability to the US elections system of all ... foreign national citizens being in the USA and thereby counted in the census, which determined seats in the House of Representatives among other things like money and even the Presidential electoral college vote, which thereby inherently defrauds American citizens of seats in the House that are given to states that harbor illegal foreign nationals. Americans are literally being defrauded of control of their own government by illegal foreign nationals that have invaded the USA. There is no other way to describe it than invasion, the takeover of power by a foreign power against the will of the resident population ... invasion.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it takes about six minutes to vote Why does voting take 6 minutes? I think I used a voting machine maybe once in my life (in the Netherlands and apparently young enough to not have used those more often). Casting a vote on paper is usually checking a box with a red pencil, takes maybe a minute of dealing with the huge sheet of paper with all the candidates. Just curious.
How few options were on the ballot you cast? In the most recent election here in California, there were a rather ridiculous number of candidates for most positions, plus quite a few propositions. Even if you pre-select your choices before hand, you still have to find those choices on the screen (or on the paper ballot) since the ordering might have changed from the sample ballot. I want to say it took me about 4 minu…
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it takes about six minutes to vote Why does voting take 6 minutes? I think I used a voting machine maybe once in my life (in the Netherlands and apparently young enough to not have used those more often). Casting a vote on paper is usually checking a box with a red pencil, takes maybe a minute of dealing with the huge sheet of paper with all the candidates. Just curious.
Sometimes there are 10-25 different votes you’re casting on a single ballot (for example: city council, judges/prosecutors, state representatives and senators, federal reps and senators, president, local and state ballot initiatives)
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#27Virginia went back to paper ballots and optical ballot scanning several years ago. I think the only drawback to this approach is storing the ballots for X years after an election (takes up space). But, it's far more secure and easy for everyone to do. Just like taking a high school test... pencil in the circle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_scan_voting_system
And IMO they should do away with "optical ballot scanning", and should move to regular humans counting them with their own eyes. An electronic scanning system could easily be vulnerable to many of the same issues that are presented here. Instead, have everyone mark their ballots like normal, then get a bunch of people in a room who all don't trust one another and have them count/tally votes together. Just about every…
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#28Virginia went back to paper ballots and optical ballot scanning several years ago. I think the only drawback to this approach is storing the ballots for X years after an election (takes up space). But, it's far more secure and easy for everyone to do. Just like taking a high school test... pencil in the circle. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_scan_voting_system
And IMO they should do away with "optical ballot scanning", and should move to regular humans counting them with their own eyes. An electronic scanning system could easily be vulnerable to many of the same issues that are presented here. Instead, have everyone mark their ballots like normal, then get a bunch of people in a room who all don't trust one another and have them count/tally votes together. Just about every…
In New York City, optical scanners are used. As a check, random precincts’ ballots are manually tallied. This is a good compromise between cost and security.
(There are additional checks, like a public and private count and vote aggregates being publicly posted at every precinct at the end of the night. Observers can also audit the public and private count of any machine at any time of the day, and they do.)
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it takes about six minutes to vote Why does voting take 6 minutes? I think I used a voting machine maybe once in my life (in the Netherlands and apparently young enough to not have used those more often). Casting a vote on paper is usually checking a box with a red pencil, takes maybe a minute of dealing with the huge sheet of paper with all the candidates. Just curious.
Most people would be quicker like a minute if I had to guess. But someone with a physical disability could easily take 6 minute. All you need is someone faking such a disability or ailment they could just pretend they are super slow moving so when they don't come out after 5 minutes no suspicion.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
How few options were on the ballot you cast? In the most recent election here in California, there were a rather ridiculous number of candidates for most positions, plus quite a few propositions. Even if you pre-select your choices before hand, you still have to find those choices on the screen (or on the paper ballot) since the ordering might have changed from the sample ballot. I want to say it took me about 4 minu…
usually many options to pick 1 from.