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Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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A bit of a tangent, but I'm looking at the (official? shown on site) Tiddlywiki poster[0], and I just have to ask: what is that fish doing, and does this really communicate something positive about the product? -- [0] - https://tiddlywiki.com/poster/images/TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoste...

Never used Tiddlywiki, just guessing from your link:

the fish is a tiddler [0], it's consuming a mess [several entangled lines] and excreting something unified and cohesive [single line].

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiddler

('Tiddler' is perhaps BrEng slang? I'm British, and I'd say it's slang - especially when applied not to a fish, but to something or someone small - but I don't know how widespread it is.)

Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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I've been writing a personal encyclopedia for the last five or six years or so. I have some 1500+ articles multiple of which are 50+ pages. I think it's been really valuable. I think I get a few things out of it: 1. Perfect recall. Every little detail I read in a book/blog/article stays with me. Makes it easy to synthesize results from multiple pieces across time, which is useful when you only have a casual interest…

Private encyclopedias just don't work for me.

Neither does keeping large amounts of well formatted documents privately. I can't hold myself accountable unless its public, and easily accessible with a search engine. Notes are primarily to break down topics and cement my understanding of it

Maybe this is just me but its pretty convenient to just type "name-of-article-you-made or name-of-video-you-made" on google and then get the files you've made.

Tiddlywiki's maintenance cost and learning curve / ability to create notes efficiently and effortlessly is not there to me. I've tried picking it up a dozen times in the last few year. A good notetaking app should get out of your way entirely, and only add a small cost of maintenance for the larger amounts of benefits you reap from it. Everything needs to be visible at a glance, with nothing hiding behind obscurity

Something like book reviews, you can write a review on goodreads to remember your opinions and thoughts were. You can bookmark things and use readwise to autosync and send you email reminders of things highlighted / quotes

Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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I've been writing a personal encyclopedia for the last five or six years or so. I have some 1500+ articles multiple of which are 50+ pages. I think it's been really valuable. I think I get a few things out of it: 1. Perfect recall. Every little detail I read in a book/blog/article stays with me. Makes it easy to synthesize results from multiple pieces across time, which is useful when you only have a casual interest…

> I have some 1500+ articles multiple of which are 50+ pages Holy shit. Make it public. The idea is fantastic. I would love to have something like wikipedia but people have separate pages on topic. Or, in other words, if you want to find everything written by given person, why not that easy it is doable - it was more doable back when blogs were more popular. But if you want to find everything on given topic written b…

'cbau, if you do make it public, I would humbly suggest making it very difficult for people to send you feedback. It would be awful if something as useful to you as this became something you "have" to maintain and keep up-to-date for the sake of anyone else reading it. Make it clear to any readers that this is strictly a resource for yourself that just happens to be publically browsable.

Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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A hyperlinked knowledge-management system for personal use, on all my computers, is essential. To achieve it, I use Emacs and Org-Mode and Dropbox. An additional benefit of using Emacs: the personal wiki can be integrated with my task-management system, which Org-Mode handles as well. Plus I can draft and edit at warp speed, having customized the native Emacs keybindings to suit me better. Were I going to publish my…

I'm curious, are you (or anyone else using Org Mode) using a single org file for your entire personal wiki, or one file per major topic? In the past, I've used Markdown files with one file per language/topic for my personal developer wiki, but am looking at moving it to Org Mode now. One file for everything (developer knowledge + other subjects) seems nice, but it seems like trying to manage and navigate around a single large file would get messy.

Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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I've been writing a personal encyclopedia for the last five or six years or so. I have some 1500+ articles multiple of which are 50+ pages. I think it's been really valuable. I think I get a few things out of it: 1. Perfect recall. Every little detail I read in a book/blog/article stays with me. Makes it easy to synthesize results from multiple pieces across time, which is useful when you only have a casual interest…

Thank you for sharing. I have a system that is kind of like this. Except it's not meant for memory as much as analysis. And I don't consider the entries "articles" but rather refer to them as "models" as in mental models. Like a real life model, say a toy car, I try to cover enough bases that it--metaphorically--at least _resembles_ a car at first. Then as I identify needed leverage points in the model, I refine my a…

I have no idea what it means for a piece of text to have "leverage points" or a hood you can open.

Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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A hyperlinked knowledge-management system for personal use, on all my computers, is essential. To achieve it, I use Emacs and Org-Mode and Dropbox. An additional benefit of using Emacs: the personal wiki can be integrated with my task-management system, which Org-Mode handles as well. Plus I can draft and edit at warp speed, having customized the native Emacs keybindings to suit me better. Were I going to publish my…

How do you handle images/screenshots/handwritten notes?

I am also using Org-Mode and Dropbox for the majority of my notes. I really like it. In particular, Orgzly for Android works great with this system, so check it out if you want mobile notes as well.

The problem is that I also like to take paper notes, and take videos/pictures of stuff, and scan documents, and download webpages. Org-mode kinda stinks for embedding external content that isn't text? As far as I can tell.

I can link to external content, and if I export to HTML it'll show up. But... I never export to HTML, because, as you probably already know, it's way easier to read notes in an editable format. I can turn on picture rending in Org-mode, but it's not responsive, and I can't crop the pictures or annotate them with a stylus, or do any of a dozen different things that I want to do.

What I've thought about is that I really just want the ability to render HTML/CSS inside of an Org-mode buffer, and ideally to be able to set up custom CSS classes that would be applied to every snippet. Just set up a quick region, write some helper functions to compile/render the HTML, etc...

I've been thinking for a while about taking some time off of work to just try and solve the problem. Is it already solved? I know that at one point people were looking into getting webkit embedded into buffers. Did that go anywhere? I guess you can build GTK widgets for Org-mode as well? But then you lose the ability to define custom styles on the fly.

Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for sharing. I have a system that is kind of like this. Except it's not meant for memory as much as analysis. And I don't consider the entries "articles" but rather refer to them as "models" as in mental models. Like a real life model, say a toy car, I try to cover enough bases that it--metaphorically--at least _resembles_ a car at first. Then as I identify needed leverage points in the model, I refine my a…

I have no idea what it means for a piece of text to have "leverage points" or a hood you can open.

A model has leverage points if there are parts of it that can be useful for solving a problem. For example, a website-building model might provide useful links to software that can be used to build different kinds of websites. Those links are important leverage points.

Each model has different leverage points. Your comment, taken as part of a model of your psychology, provides leverage for understanding that part of my text was not well received by your psychology.

Regarding the hood, look at it this way: If you don't know much about cars, you might look at a simple toy car _without an opening hood_ and make assumptions about what happens in the front of the car. When you get a car where the hood opens, maybe all of a sudden you make a huge leap: There is stuff under here, and it does something. So at this point, maybe you start working on (by asking around, or reading), or building, a model with a working engine. Or even just a working dipstick, who knows. As the parts are revealed, the model gains leverage. Pretty soon you are able to run more advanced simulations and predict traffic dynamics, things like that. Or you change models and learn the leverage points of the tractor, or motorcycle. You begin to learn why a motorcycle is helpful and even necessary in some circumstances. Texts work the same way as they unfold. And there are also various text-creation methods that expose different leverage points. Reliance on charts and graphs, or emotive graphics, etc. All of it is helpful in some way, and maybe--like my original comment--low-leverage in other ways and for other people.

Anyway I hope that helps, but I know I'm still couching this in metaphor which isn't a high-leverage communications method for everyone. YMMV, which is what makes human psychology so cool.

Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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A hyperlinked knowledge-management system for personal use, on all my computers, is essential. To achieve it, I use Emacs and Org-Mode and Dropbox. An additional benefit of using Emacs: the personal wiki can be integrated with my task-management system, which Org-Mode handles as well. Plus I can draft and edit at warp speed, having customized the native Emacs keybindings to suit me better. Were I going to publish my…

I'm curious, are you (or anyone else using Org Mode) using a single org file for your entire personal wiki, or one file per major topic? In the past, I've used Markdown files with one file per language/topic for my personal developer wiki, but am looking at moving it to Org Mode now. One file for everything (developer knowledge + other subjects) seems nice, but it seems like trying to manage and navigate around a sin…

I use separate files for separate topics. Org mode is pretty good at linking between files. I've even done coding projects where a TODO list links to lines of code inside of a source file (by grep, not by line number, otherwise they'd go outdated every time I committed).

Getting into Org-mode, I would occasionally run into people who would say, "there's one right way to do this. You should be using Org-agenda view for all of your TODOs, you should be setting up tags with this specific system..." Over time, I have learned to ignore those people.

The main benefit of Org-mode is that it is really, really, stinking flexible. You should use whatever system you're most comfortable with (probably whatever you were using before with Markdown) and then slowly adapt features like auto-archiving TODOs, time-tracking, tags, Org-capture, as you need them.

You should look into them, because sometimes you see something cool like Org-capture and you're like, "woah, I could just hit one keypress, type in a sentence, and it'll get auto-filed for me based on the content." But let that "coolness" factor be the thing that guides you. Org-mode is really big and really adaptable, so if you try to grab everything in one go, you'll end up turning your notes into a chore again.

I started using Org-mode specifically because I hated having to adapt a very personal notetaking style to more rigid commercial apps. And my notetaking style evolves based on what I'm going through in life anyway. Org-mode allows it to be more rigid or more flexible based on life circumstances.

Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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I'd like to be able to press a shortcut key and have my computer save a screenshot of whatever I'm looking at, along with letting me type a brief note for context. Ideally it would also record the URL of whatever the browser was visiting (if it's a screenshot of a browser page), or the file path of whatever was open. So basically Pinboard, but for pages of PDFs and other random scraps.

Evernote does something like this. And it let's you search for text in the images as well. I have over 12k notes in Evernote. Many screenshots. It has excellent OCR capabilities, full-text search (via Lucene?) and syncs across devices.

Yep search, search across attachments and web page capture means that Evernote rules in this space for me.

Evernote has traditionally been marketed as a note-taking app but for me it is a personal database/encyclopaedia. The ease of finding anything without having to worry about structure or links (though I have a bit of both) is fantastic.

Re: Tiddlywiki – A non-linear personal web notebook

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post #41

A bit of a tangent, but I'm looking at the (official? shown on site) Tiddlywiki poster[0], and I just have to ask: what is that fish doing, and does this really communicate something positive about the product? -- [0] - https://tiddlywiki.com/poster/images/TiddlyWiki_TiddlerPoste...

Never used Tiddlywiki, just guessing from your link: the fish is a tiddler [0], it's consuming a mess [several entangled lines] and excreting something unified and cohesive [single line]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiddler ('Tiddler' is perhaps BrEng slang? I'm British, and I'd say it's slang - especially when applied not to a fish, but to something or someone small - but I don't know how widespread it is.)

From that wiki page:

> A small fish, especially the three-spined stickleback

My wife, a neuroscientist researching three-spined stickleback, has never come across the term 'tiddler'. Midwestern US.

So, yes, I would say it is solitarily British slang.

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