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Mexico’s drug cartels are moving into the gasoline industry

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Re: Mexico’s drug cartels are moving into the gasoline industry

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How much cocaine can you dissolve in gasoline-based/like solvents to smuggle and then reconstitute? How much cash can you smuggle in the middle of a fuel tanker?

How easily/efficiently can oil companies launder money?

Why is no one addressing the seemingly obvious truth that the entire world is nothing but a complex corrupt criminal system of lies? Or am I just far too cynical?

Re: Mexico’s drug cartels are moving into the gasoline industry

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Mexico, along with Russia, are the two most notorious mafia states. And notice the problems have been getting worse as the amount of oil diminishes, which was predicted. This, on our own doorstep, cannot be contained and will affect our own country. There will be even more refugees, too, because of this.

I don't understand why they don't upgrade their methods for the 21st century and get into legality. I'm sure they would be quite successful in pharma/opioids/tabacco/gambling businesses. There would be no need to use axes on average people.

The legal crime and illegal crime markets are in (or close to) equilibrium; why switch if the former is about as easy as the latter?

Re: Mexico’s drug cartels are moving into the gasoline industry

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Mexico, along with Russia, are the two most notorious mafia states. And notice the problems have been getting worse as the amount of oil diminishes, which was predicted. This, on our own doorstep, cannot be contained and will affect our own country. There will be even more refugees, too, because of this.

I don't understand why they don't upgrade their methods for the 21st century and get into legality. I'm sure they would be quite successful in pharma/opioids/tabacco/gambling businesses. There would be no need to use axes on average people.

Because running legal business is a lot harder than running illegal one. With legal business there are laws/regulations and there is competition. When you run drug business and competitor show up you just take a gun and eliminate your competitor (simplifying here of course). Another thing is that you will get respect from a lot people in certain circles and a lot will fear you if you've built successful crime organization. It's a lot harder to get that running pharma business. Why do you think people like Escobar didn't just retire having hundreds millions of dollars? Sometimes its not all about the money in the end game. They do invest in legal businesses to launder money most of the time.

Being on top of large criminal organization is intoxicating just like having power is.

Re: Mexico’s drug cartels are moving into the gasoline industry

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Mexico, along with Russia, are the two most notorious mafia states. And notice the problems have been getting worse as the amount of oil diminishes, which was predicted. This, on our own doorstep, cannot be contained and will affect our own country. There will be even more refugees, too, because of this.

>> This, on our own doorstep, cannot be contained and will affect our own country. Just FYI, not everyone on HN is from US.

Sure, but the entire world is/can-be affected by the actions of the US as a whole.

Re: Mexico’s drug cartels are moving into the gasoline industry

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Mexico, along with Russia, are the two most notorious mafia states. And notice the problems have been getting worse as the amount of oil diminishes, which was predicted. This, on our own doorstep, cannot be contained and will affect our own country. There will be even more refugees, too, because of this.

>> This, on our own doorstep, cannot be contained and will affect our own country. Just FYI, not everyone on HN is from US.

Some of us even live in Mexico. Crazy, right?

Re: Mexico’s drug cartels are moving into the gasoline industry

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>> This, on our own doorstep, cannot be contained and will affect our own country. Just FYI, not everyone on HN is from US.

Sure, but the entire world is/can-be affected by the actions of the US as a whole.

No disagreement here.

Re: Mexico’s drug cartels are moving into the gasoline industry

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Recommended movie: Elite Squad and especially the sequel Elite Squad: Enemy Within . It's about BOPE, the special operations unit of Rio de Janeiro police. The first is about the military anti-gang exploits, the second is a good hard look at what corruption looks like. The drugs aren't going away if you break up a cartel, neither is the money.

They are really tough movies to watch, and also pack a grisly and realistic storyline. I dont know if I enjoyed them or not. One thing is for certain, I can't unsee them.

Re: Mexico’s drug cartels are moving into the gasoline industry

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You made two spelling errors in "war". Do you think that mafia will sit and watch?

The US military or national guard would be deployed as necessary if the cartels began firing on the contractors and government workers building a theoretical wall. Cartels are certainly threatening in their environment, they're entirely worthless in actual military style engagements. In terms of gear, logistics, training and soldiers, they're less capable than the most mediocre of nation armies. It's not what they're…

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. How's the US military holding up against fighters in Afghanistan or Iraq? Guerilla style warfare has always been a problem for the United States. Case in point, Vietnam. Now throw the Cartel into the mix with the funding they have and you'd have a much bigger problem at hand. "They fare extremely poorly against the Mexican military." Show proof of this statement? Ever since the Mexican government announced the war on drugs and deployed the military violence is at its highest in recent years and the rise of even more sophisticated Cartels with actual military training has risen. You should stop watching Hollywood movies.
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