Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by balladeer » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 6:31 AM UTC

JoshTriplett wrote: post #162

ex3ndr wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but where? There are not that much email providers that will live forever and won't change your UX and have mobile apps, and... and...

Get a domain from Gandi. $15/year and includes email service. You can either use the email directly, or forward it somewhere else so you can keep using the same email address forever even if you change providers.

Wow, didn't know that. Seems like a pretty good deal considering they are known as one of the better registrars. I will keep it in mind in case I have to look for alternative of either name.com or mailbox.org.

Mailbox.org as of now seems to be good except that they have started to either reply to emails quite late or sometimes simply ignore it[0] and the general lack of non-German language pages across their portal [1].

[0] Maybe because they have officially stopped anything but community/forum support for paying customers in €1 and €2.5 per month plans -https://mailbox.org/en/fees-and-conditions/

[1] https://help.mailbox.org/servicedesk/customer/user/login?des... Yes, one can guess or use Google translate but there's no translated page for this.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by Too » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 6:46 AM UTC

thrower123 wrote: post #88

thrower123 wrote: post #27

I have one browser tab that hasn't been refreshed since before this travesty was dropped. I'm going to try to keep that one going as long as possible... The unnecessary animations irk me. I'm clocking 5-10 seconds to load and render my inbox, on a quad-core i7 with oodles of RAM and a fat network pipe. Whereas the basic view loads in 700 ms...

By the time the new UI has loaded in and stopped churning, I'm up to 225 requests, pulling down over 5mb. Most of these seem to be tiny pngs for button icons... Why aren't these spritesheeted? Basic view is 9 requests for 24 kb...

Wasn't http2 supposed to solve this?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by richev » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 6:49 AM UTC

chaddattilio wrote: post #89

Has anyone liked a UI redesign of anything anywhere?

I actually really liked it when Office 2007 introduced the ribbon, in particular when I understood the rationale behind it (which was covered at MIX08[0]).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9kD693ie4

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by chienandalou » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 8:06 AM UTC

ex3ndr wrote: post #124

save_ferris wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's especially bad on Firefox. With that, and the fact that Google is killing Inbox, it feels like time to look for alternatives.

Sure, but where? There are not that much email providers that will live forever and won't change your UX and have mobile apps, and... and...

Posteo works quite nice and they are very privacy-focussed, e.g. they release yearly transparency reports about requests from authorities.

https://posteo.de/en https://posteo.de/en/site/transparency_report

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by jpindar » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 8:40 AM UTC

aargh_aargh wrote: post #173

jpindar wrote: post #154

In addition to everything else, they've eliminated the different colored stars & icons. I liked those and used them to highlight mails I wanted to get back to. Now there's only starred and unstarred. (Be careful how you use 'important', as Google tries to learn from that and gets it wrong.)

They have? Doesn't seem so in my account. I've been using the green tick, red exclamation mark & co. for the better part of a decade since they've been in Labs. They still work for me. Should I be worried?

Huh, I tried again and now they're working.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by selckin » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 8:43 AM UTC

My main issue is the keybinds, like before when you archived from the inbox it would go to the next one, or you could use 'j', 'k' to go the next one and it would open, now it does nothing after the next mail doesn't open when archiving

this makes going through the inbox in the morning very frustrating

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by mrcnkoba » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 9:04 AM UTC

I'm seriously considering switching away from gmail for two reasons:

1. Privacy concerns

2. The new and painfully slow Gmail UI

I think I finally realized that there are no free things in live and you usually have to sacrifice something. Here it's privacy.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by PurpleRamen » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 11:11 AM UTC

mrbonner wrote: post #137

hawski wrote: post #18

I don't mind the look that much, but it's painfully slow. When an application gains a animated splash screen I know that it's time has come. I'm using a Chromebook, so in a way a Google blessed device and it's annoyingly slow. I'm switching to basic HTML view. If it will disappear I will get off gmail for good.

I have a 2015 MBP with 16GB of RAM and a core i5. The experience using Firefox with the new Gmail UI with this laptop is nothing but sluggish. I have to switch back to the old UI. I am not sure what I would do after Google takes away the old UI. What the hell is going on at Google?

> What the hell is going on at Google?

Iterations are going on. There is a school of thought that believes any kind of movement is progress. May it movement into good or bad direction. Thats why companys regulary rehaul their apps, the design and corperate identity. It always end with some people becoming unhappy, but hopefully more people being happy.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by eleitl » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 11:15 AM UTC

I've started using Thunderbird with Gmail again. This is the first step to moving the bulk of my email activity to my self-hosted mail server.

And, of course, I'm also ditching Chrome for Firefox (and Tor Browser) as well.

Well done, Google. You finally forced my hand.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone from Google here? The new Gmail UI is painful

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Post by simon_acca » Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 11:15 AM UTC

Practical tip for those that want a web based solution right now: install rainloop on a server and point it to gmail’s imap/smtp servers. Rainloop + an http server that handles tls in front of it can be installed fairly painlessly and quickly with docker.

https://www.rainloop.net/