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The big question for Google: What revenue stream lies beyond ads? What else could you make money off to inspire again? Rather then just selling out your users on a daily basis.
Their cloud business doubles every year. Play & hardware are also considerable now: https://qz.com/1334369/alphabet-q2-2018-earnings-google-is-m...
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I think this is a critical point of misunderstanding: > if a company sells your data and you invoke your rights against the company, it's the company's responsibility to go after whoever they sold the data to, not yours. Can you point me to more details on this? I have my doubts about it.
As a user your contract is with the company you give the data to. That's simply how contracts work. If the contract says they can give that data to someone else, that's fine. If it doesn't, they can't. That shouldn't be surprising. The GDPR treats personal information as property of the user. Even if access to and processing of that data is permitted by the user, it remains the property of the user. If the company is…
Where the controller has made the personal data public and is obliged pursuant to paragraph 1 to erase the personal data, the controller, taking account of available technology and the cost of implementation, shall take reasonable steps, including technical measures, to inform controllers which are processing the personal data that the data subject has requested the erasure by such controllers of any links to, or copy or replication of, those personal data.
So there's an obligation to inform. Which makes sense: Assume you (with consent of the user) sell data to some company, you have to forward them the request of said user to be forgotten. But you have no authority over that company. You can report them to any and every authority if they ignore or actively refuse your request, but you as a company have no authority over them. Particularly if they don't operate within the reach of the European authorities, there's little you can do. And that's what I mean with "You surrender control of the data once you sell it".
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> We should still call it out each and every time we see it, even if we are repeating ourselves. Seems like the right response would be to stop using the problem products. If you think you can't afford to, I hope you like Google. This is in no way surprising.
Yep. I’m not using Google for anything anymore and have to say, the inconvenience is very minor. The rest of the web still syncs fine (IMAP, CalDAV etc.) Only YouTube is irreplaceable, and you need an account to save videos and subscribe to channels. Luckily a throwaway Google account with BS info and a temporary backup e-mail address is easily created every 3 months.
Sigh! Google makes phone verification compulsory when you try to create the Google account (mandatory to use Google products).
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I try to stay on topic, but sometimes I do make mistakes.
Actually, you've been doing it for many months: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=yuhong&next=16828059 . This is clearly abusive, so if you keep doing it we will have to ban you. No more comments about your essays, please.
Interesting. If I've submitted a comment within the last N hours, I'm not allowed to submit stories.
N seems to be at least 3.
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If you're privacy conscious, why do you have a smart phone at all? Get a standalone GPS Even in airplane mode, your phone is tracking where you go with the accelerometer. I don't have time to look up the video right now, but this has been tested.
> If you're privacy conscious, why do you have a smart phone at all? Get a standalone GPS There are trade offs between privacy and security, it's not an all or nothing affair. Even a dumb phone can be tracked via cell tower pings... I think most people who say things like you did aren't effectively thread modeling. For example, while I do own a smartphone, I turn it off and put it in a faraday bag during Defcon :) >E…
I had used that phone, and then google started pushing play services, play store into my phone.
the market app would not download any app without being transformed into the play store app which would require google play services.
These took space on my phone, and the phone did not have space to even save sms.
Installing, side loading apks and all is fine but you don't and can't tell your parents in a 3rd world country.
It became horrible one day when I wanted to just run android market on my phone and google forced to download play store, play services, and market transformed into play store and it took more than 100 MiB data. I was trying to show my parents as to how to download something from market, etc. whatsapp was becoming popular in my town. It was horrible because 100Mib of data costs money and screen flashed twice.
Then I had to give up. I had not got much money at that time.
Now, what I do.
I make an obscure email account [not gmail] on yahoo or ms or any tuta and make a google account using that email [ not gmail ] and you can keep changing the google' account email.
Google tracks your location, but it also correlates your location against your emails [ it never stopped reading emails ], don't use gmail at all.
You cannot avoid tracking of location, but you can avoid cross check of tracking info with your gmail content.
The gmail which is use actually is never synced to any device [ have deleted all the my activity permissions ] and I have turned up forwarding from gmail to a certain address which I open using firefox klar once a day.
Summary :
DO NOT USE THE SAME GOOGLE ACCOUNT FOR GMAIL AND ALL OTHER GOOGLE SERVICES.
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In addition to those technical options, they have been substantially reducing revenue to producers and their algorithms have been shifting popular videos out of visible areas. Often popular producers will see sudden losses in their incomes. Videos are not enough to sustain, they're like apps; a part of a larger revenue model. This disincentivizes smaller, interesting producers and pushes the platform to be more like…
I find it almost impossibly difficult to find older videos now.
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Are you turning off GPS or all location? Because location can still be enabled when GPS is off. There's location via wifi and via bluetooth.
The location option in the android quick menu. I was unaware there was any other way to even turn off the GPS. I assumed it was wifi since it seems to not happen when the wifi is turned off. It would have at least been corporate speak to have an option called GPS that people assumed was location tracking and was not. Having an option called "Location" that does not stop your phone from tracking your location when tur…
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The location option in the android quick menu. I was unaware there was any other way to even turn off the GPS. I assumed it was wifi since it seems to not happen when the wifi is turned off. It would have at least been corporate speak to have an option called GPS that people assumed was location tracking and was not. Having an option called "Location" that does not stop your phone from tracking your location when tur…
Hmm, that seems to completely turn off all location. So I don't know why google would seemingly still know your location.
It's like browser fingerprinting. It doesn't take very many bits of entropy before you are identifiable
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Hmm, that seems to completely turn off all location. So I don't know why google would seemingly still know your location.
All they need to do is see what wifi connections I can reach on my phone. In any urban area you can easily reach 50+ wifi connections standing in one spot. If google knows X wifi connection corresponds to Y range of a physical location because of someone else left their location and wifi on, then they can tell that if I can reach 4 or 5 different wifi connections at once then I must be at a certain address. It's like…