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Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Fun fact: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/09/security-update/ was published at 16:42:44. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/technology/facebook-hack-... was published at 16:45:41. NYT writes fast :)

PR Teams will work with major news sources on the stories in advance of the announcement, in exchange for having an input on the final story.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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> So is working at Google, Amazon and probably 90% of the big corps of the world in many sectors While Google and Amazon both have their ethical problems and serious anti-trust issues, Facebook is in a league of its own. The complete, cavalier disregard for the consequences of its own actions as long as they get theirs is utterly unconscionable. Unlike Google or Amazon, they add nothing of real value to society to ba…

That's, just like, your opinion man.

We are all in the world of opinions here. Share your opinion or criticize his. Comments like this are not helping us make progress on these issues.

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What really freaks me out is the day Facebook die, what will happen to all of this data? If you heard about the NCIX story where they basically abandoned their servers filled with users data (over 13 years of data) and someone scooped them up and tried to resell them on the black market, one could think that a similar fate is possible. source : https://www.privacyfly.com/articles/ncix_breach/ Obviously if Facebook wa…

> What really freaks me out is the day Facebook die, what will happen to all of this data?

Interestingly, Facebook owns your data. I believe if they wanted to, they could close the company tomorrow and put a facebook.tar.xz of everything they collected on archive.org or somewhere else.

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Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again. Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to tak…

So is working at Google, Amazon and probably 90% of the big corps of the world in many sectors - from oil to finance to pharmaceutical to telecommunications and so on. And we can include the government. If you're a subcontrator or sold in body rental (modern IT slavery) you're also in the same position as an employee, so you're enabling their evils. Also, if one of those companies is a client of your company you're a…

Is it really that bad being a software/hardware engineer in Europe? I was thinking of entering via Holland (easiest work rights) and then after a few years try to work in France or Italy where it is almost impossible to fire someone, so I could retire on the job.

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Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again. Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to tak…

So is working at Google, Amazon and probably 90% of the big corps of the world in many sectors - from oil to finance to pharmaceutical to telecommunications and so on. And we can include the government. If you're a subcontrator or sold in body rental (modern IT slavery) you're also in the same position as an employee, so you're enabling their evils. Also, if one of those companies is a client of your company you're a…

What pressure can people realistically apply to facebook without help from labor?

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Its sad that everytime there is a post about Facebook the comments are extremely toxic and negative, and don't really even discuss the article itself. I would argue that 80% of all tech companies are doing close to 0 in making the world a 'better place'.

Seems like the sad thing is that SV companies are actively making the world worse, not that reaction to this is negative.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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That's, just like, your opinion man.

We are all in the world of opinions here. Share your opinion or criticize his. Comments like this are not helping us make progress on these issues.

Sure, let's all sling FUD around based on anecdotes and fake data. Let's shame people earning a salary working at a company and trying to solve real problems. Sure FB does some shitty things but honestly so does every large company out there. It's impossible to get to that massive size without breaking a couple eggs here and there.

People expect saints when saints are imaginary. The baseline to measure cannot be "perfection".

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> Use of the platform is entirely voluntary No it's not. Do you know Facebook creates shadow profiles of you by tracking your online activities? Even if you discount that, what about when all your friends use Facebook? Then you are going to be forced into a situation where you either use Facebook or stay disconnected from you friends.

Do you know Facebook creates shadow profiles of you by tracking your online activities? How would they do this if you never visit the site or download the app? If you're referring to the use of a pixel, compared to the full-fledge use of cookies used by other ad networks (the Gizmodo article from yesterday itself noticeably had ads all they way down the page based on sites I'd recently visited), surely that alone doe…

> How would they do this if you never visit the site or download the app?

Facebook SDK is used in more than 40% of mobile apps. Devs do it for analytics and ads. The feature is called Facebook Audience Network.

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Many users are still going to use the same password for their FB account and email account. All the security in the world won't fix people.

Pervasive biometric security may be the next step. I know it's scary and could actually be abused but it also can generally increase the level of security for everyone.

If your password is leaked, then you can still reset it. If your fingerprint signature leaks, you're out of options.

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So is working at Google, Amazon and probably 90% of the big corps of the world in many sectors - from oil to finance to pharmaceutical to telecommunications and so on. And we can include the government. If you're a subcontrator or sold in body rental (modern IT slavery) you're also in the same position as an employee, so you're enabling their evils. Also, if one of those companies is a client of your company you're a…

"They're all like this so it's impossible to do good" is an even more morally bankrupt position. It rejects personal responsibility and agency, places you as the victim, and allows you to continue to be a bad actor in the world. You should change this.

No, it's just being realistic. When a company gets to that size it's holy unrealistic to expect perfection and saintliness.
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