I find facebook's effects on privacy and democracy as scary as the next person, but so far their secure coding standards have been extremely high. They're one of the few big names NOT on haveibeenpwned.com, they run their passwords through a KDF and then encrypt the result with a hardware security module, and a whole lot of other good things. I guess even the best (at secure coding) sometimes mess up.
Many users are still going to use the same password for their FB account and email account. All the security in the world won't fix people.
Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users
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Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users
#272Recently talked to 2 friends working for fb. According to them, the culture there is very toxic. For a master's degree, once get in, you need to get promoted in 22 months (I might misremember the actual number.) or you will have to leave. Debugging is never counted as a real work, so for quick promotion, nobody wants to solve bugs unless a bug becomes too obvious. And they also complained about no work-life balance.…
Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users
#273Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again. Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to tak…
So is working at Google, Amazon and probably 90% of the big corps of the world in many sectors - from oil to finance to pharmaceutical to telecommunications and so on. And we can include the government. If you're a subcontrator or sold in body rental (modern IT slavery) you're also in the same position as an employee, so you're enabling their evils. Also, if one of those companies is a client of your company you're a…
So this is how we justify it now? “But it will allow me to buy a house in 3-4 years”?
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#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wild speculation. Any evidence? I don't think there has been much stopping these companies selling the data up to this point. That's been the issue with Facebook and others, they have happily sold peoples data with little legal protection for the people whose data they sell. There is no crime in just selling the data within the US so your theory doesn't hold up. Never attribute to conspiracy that which is adequately…
I don't have any evidence. But I just like to think it that way. Also it could be because I finished reading most of the books mentioned here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17749283 BTW there are people who need data, not just people within US. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/world/asia/trump-china-el... "Mr. Trump did not suggest that China’s behavior was on the scale of Russia’s sophisticated campaign of m…
You should try and change that. Best to deal with the actual verifiable ills of the world, without causing misdirection and making up new ones
Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users
#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
What happened was that VCs started sucking up all the equity and it became not worth it from a risk-reward perspective for most people to work at a startup. This, coupled with companies staying private longer meant that in the lat 5 years, you were better off working at G/FB than a small or mid-sized startup. e.g https://www.slideshare.net/a16z/state-of-49390473/29-29Becau...
While VCs certainly played into this, I'd say founders merit the bulk of the blame. VCs are generally more amenable than founders to larger equity pools for employees. They're also much more enthusiastic about IPOs than founders, since they want liquidity events for their investments.
Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users
#276Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again. Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to tak…
I've got several infosec friends at Facebook right now, all new hires, trying to preserve our democracy from attacks. I don't consider them morally bankrupt at all.
Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users
#277Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again. Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to tak…
So is working at Google, Amazon and probably 90% of the big corps of the world in many sectors - from oil to finance to pharmaceutical to telecommunications and so on. And we can include the government. If you're a subcontrator or sold in body rental (modern IT slavery) you're also in the same position as an employee, so you're enabling their evils. Also, if one of those companies is a client of your company you're a…
Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users
#278Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again. Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to tak…
I abhor the phrase "morally bankrupt". Who are you to judge the entirety of someone's moral compass?
Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users
#279Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again. Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to tak…
Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users
#280Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again. Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to tak…
I've got several infosec friends at Facebook right now, all new hires, trying to preserve our democracy from attacks. I don't consider them morally bankrupt at all.