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To my two SMEs, yes, it is. It is responsible for 95% of our Marketing effort and 60% Sales. So to us, FB brings in the money.
The fact that you are dependent on FB for revenue does not make it "critical infrastructure". Few people are harmed if you go out of business.
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According to your linked article, it could be considered 'Critical.' Not sure how it doesn't fit under the 'telecommunications' umbrella. Subjectively I don't like facebook nor people's dependence on it to label it 'critical', but objectively I'm not sure the linked article supports those subjective inclinations. At the very least, it's certainly debatable that facebook could be considered Telecommunications infrastr…
But it's a self fulfilling prophecy. It's only "critical" because it exists. If we shutdown every Facebook server tomorrow and set fire to their data center, it would no longer exist. And therefore have no influence on much of anything.
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I don't think you can so glibly dismiss enthusiasm as Stockholm syndrome. Passionate people push the world forward, and mocking passion is a recipe for mediocrity and stagnation.
> Passionate people push the world forward we're talking about Facebook here
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This is a very short-sighted view. Yes it has some immediate benefit in terms of pay, but you have to consider the long-term societal tradeoff of not developing addictive mental candy for people or developing societally useful technologies (or vice-versa, as it now stands). We can focussed on getting paid a lot now, or improving the wealth of everyone and generative the value we can all enjoy later.
> the long-term societal tradeoff of not developing addictive mental candy Along with React, GraphQL and a bunch of other technologies with various degrees of popularity https://opensource.fb.com Along with various startups building around the projects incubated at Facebook - Asana, Interana, Phacility, Qubole, etc.
You don't think those technologies could have been developed by people at ethical companies, or even by the same people at ethical companies?
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Do you think that I should be forced not to code after a certain time of day? I wouldn't work at a company that imposed this restriction.
Yes, and it shouldn't be up to an employer to set that limit, but to regulatory bodies. Having people spend 12-14h a day working is not good in the long term, and expecting people to do that otherwise they will be fired is draconic.
Yes my company benefits from it, but so do I. For instance, given a choice of trying to come up with an idea to learn about a feature of AWS and pay money for the resources I use, and take advantage of my work AWS (Dev) account where I am an admin, I would rather do a work related project where I have the resources and I don’t have to come up with an idea and I don’t have to pay for it.
What I don’t do is “signal”. I don’t stay at work late, I don’t send emails out after hours, and I pushback if they give me unreasonable deadlines.
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Or why FB waited almost a week to tell us.
> On the afternoon of Tuesday, September 25, our engineering team discovered a security issue affecting almost 50 million accounts. Now it's 28th, meaning that they've disclosed the breach within 72 hours, as requested by at least one regulation (Article 33 of the GDPR). That's clearly not even half a week.
Fun quotes from all of two months ago: 'Facebook is clearly aware that losing its chief security officer and dissolving its dedicated security team, in the middle of all that’s going on, is not a great look. So many of the company’s statements today are clearly designed to address obvious concerns that arise. “We expect to be judged on what we do to protect people’s security, not whether we have someone with a certai…
It is essential that tech companies, especially ones that provide critical infrastructure, place technical excellence above other priorities. Denigrating meritocracy is like pollution: the impact may not be immediate, and in the short term, it may look like you can have your cake and eat it too, but the universe is not caring and not kind, and if you forget about the need for excellence in the continual struggle agai…
I'm glad this doesn't affect me since I don't use Facebook. Oh, wait, it doesn't matter since they move heaven and earth to collect and store my data anyway, and of course I can't get them to delete it. Seriously, fuck Facebook.
Random question - is there a way to naturalize in the EU and use GDPR to ask Facebook to remove your data? (For example an Estonian digital citizenship) I might be way way off and I am (obviously) not a lawyer but interested in material about this.
I’m a EU citizen and I’ve always been intrigued by Estonia’s digital citizenship. I’ve only picked a few tidbits about how it works and they may be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt.
From what I understand, a digital citizenship is different from a normal citizenship. It allows you to, for example, open a company, but I don’t know if it gives you enough to make you a EU citizen. In Portugal there’s a bit of a kerfuffle about the Golden Visa programme[1] because it’s seen as a way to buy EU citizenship for cheap[2] and cause problems for nationals[3]. I’m not aware of the same happening through Estonia, so it makes it me think it doesn’t give you EU citizenship.
In addition, you have to actually go to Estonia to set up the digital citizenship; it’s not something you can do completely offline and be done with it.
Methods such as marriage are not that effective in Portugal, at least at the moment. I know of two people with legitimate reasons to get Portuguese citizenship and the process has been a chore, taking years.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_Golden_Visa
[2]: Yes, you need to invest, but you keep your investment.
[3]: House prices in major cities and surrounding areas are through the roof.
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For what it's worth, Facebook did not dissolve its dedicated security team. That statement is misreporting on the part of The Verge. Facebook's security team is actually expanding its presence. There is lot of misinformation about the Stamos debacle on all sides.
Do you have a source for this, "throwaway"?
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> the long-term societal tradeoff of not developing addictive mental candy Along with React, GraphQL and a bunch of other technologies with various degrees of popularity https://opensource.fb.com Along with various startups building around the projects incubated at Facebook - Asana, Interana, Phacility, Qubole, etc.
React + GraphQL Where B is the sum of the set consisting of: -Breaking democracy in the US and the UK by being _the_ platform for disinformation. -Disinformation assisting genocide in Myanmar. -Use correlating strongly with poor mental health -Manipulating behaviour to encourage poor attention spans for the sake of ad-clicking -Constantly violating basic standards of privacy -(I could go on..) Oh wait, excuse my arit…