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Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by EGreg »

jsnell wrote: post #115
EGreg wrote: post #28

On the one hand, every time another scandal or breach is revealed about centralized networks, I want to post this and have everyone recognize the root problem and the solution: https://Qbix.com (see the video) On the other hand, I feel like I’m shamelessly promoting/shilling my own company. How to do it in a classy way? I really believe that there is a problem people are not recognizing enough to do something about i…

> On the other hand, I feel like I’m shamelessly promoting/shilling my own company. Good news, you're not just imagining things. It feels exactly like that to the readers as well.

Okay so how about answering my questions which are based on this assumption?

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by EGreg »

laken wrote: post #94
lukebennett wrote: post #43

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Seeing as you asked... your website's terrible UX doesn't help. I just took a look and moved on within 30 seconds - a dated look and feel (that also feels targeted at primary school teachers), walls of text, broken links, no clear route back to the homepage to reorient yourself (can't click the logo), no clear waypoints to follow... You only get one chance to make a first impression. I'm afraid the first impression I…

In addition, the site isn't responsive, which is quite problematic considering that statistics show ~60% of web traffic is on mobile devices.

What do you mean it isn’t responsive? It loads on mobile phones with a completely mobile optimized look. Have you tried it? Unless you mean you loaded it on a desktop and tried to resize the browser window to quickly check what would happen on a phone - no normal user does that

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by lgeorget »

erjohnson wrote: post #95

What are some secure Facebook Messenger alternatives to use? The only reason I currently have Facebook is because of the ease behind Messenger but I do not want to continue using their services. I also need to be able to convince my friends to try a different platform since I want to be able to continue to communicate with them. Any advice?

There are some well-known alternatives: Signal, Telegram, any XMPP server (which you can host)... As for convincing your friends to switch to it, there's no one-size-fit-all method.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by blablabla123 »

chalkandpaste wrote: post #61
tmh79 wrote: post #44

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they havent monopolized talent, they pay for talent. Facebook paying high salaries has increased all of our pay, equity etc, whether you work there or not. The only thing this may be bad for is founders who are in a zero sum competition with FB for talent and now need to spend more money and equity to get it.

This is a very short-sighted view. Yes it has some immediate benefit in terms of pay, but you have to consider the long-term societal tradeoff of not developing addictive mental candy for people or developing societally useful technologies (or vice-versa, as it now stands). We can focussed on getting paid a lot now, or improving the wealth of everyone and generative the value we can all enjoy later.

Still living in Europe, I must admit I always envied the people who work at Facebook, Google etc. This neutralizes my envy

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by koube »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #106
fareesh wrote: post #100

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According to some in the US government, Facebook can change the result of an election, so I guess that would qualify

> According to some in the US government, Facebook can change the result of an election, so I guess that would qualify Essential infrastructure describes "assets that are essential for the functioning of a society and economy" [1]. Not things that can cause a lot of damage. Bombers aren't essential infrastructure. Facebook is non-essential. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_infrastructure

Bombers don't cause damage if they are neglected and unmaintained. A better analogy might be explosive material or radioactive material like involved in the Goiânia accident. There are consequences to the public when these are neglected. I don't know if those semantically qualify as critical infra, but its security is important for our security.

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Post by rodolphoarruda »

gaahrdner wrote: post #89
quotemstr wrote: post #86

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It is essential that tech companies, especially ones that provide critical infrastructure, place technical excellence above other priorities. Denigrating meritocracy is like pollution: the impact may not be immediate, and in the short term, it may look like you can have your cake and eat it too, but the universe is not caring and not kind, and if you forget about the need for excellence in the continual struggle agai…

Is Facebook now considered critical infrastructure?

To my two SMEs, yes, it is. It is responsible for 95% of our Marketing effort and 60% Sales. So to us, FB brings in the money.

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Post by bitL »

asveikau wrote: post #124
quotemstr wrote: post #81

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What, exactly, is wrong with the expectation that people make senior level eventually? What exactly is wrong with being able to work at any time? I worked there for years, and if I was landing code at 12am, it was because I was excited about what I was doing. It was wonderful being able to work with people from all over the world on high-impact projects, and fixing important bugs was definitely high-impact. People wh…

>> you need to get promoted in 22 months ... or you will have to leave > What, exactly, is wrong with the expectation that people make senior level eventually? The problem is when you base too much on promotion systems and performance reviews, that end up as a form of bias and favoritism not closely approximating the truth. Some amount of people are doing useful work for you (like cleaning up after people you think a…

> you risk losing their valuable contributions.

Modus operandi in these companies is to rewrite/reintroduce whole products instead of fixing bugs from already discarded people. So if you lose a critical amount of worn out higher paid contributors, you just make a V2 or introduce a new product with a completely new fresh team that will get discarded after another 3 years. This requires fresh supply of motivated and hungry people willing to take sacrifices and a much smaller amount of people willing to exploit that.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by Rooster61 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #106
fareesh wrote: post #100

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According to some in the US government, Facebook can change the result of an election, so I guess that would qualify

> According to some in the US government, Facebook can change the result of an election, so I guess that would qualify Essential infrastructure describes "assets that are essential for the functioning of a society and economy" [1]. Not things that can cause a lot of damage. Bombers aren't essential infrastructure. Facebook is non-essential. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_infrastructure

The information contained within Facebook is the payload. Facebook itself is the structure that holds and protects (or lack thereof in this case) that payload.

Nuclear missiles themselves aren't critical infrastructure, but you better bet the launch systems, and specifically the security of those systems, are utterly critical to society's continued functioning as we know it.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by rstupek »

IvyMike wrote: post #104
modeless wrote: post #56

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I doubt it. The "View As" feature does not require the target to be currently logged in to Facebook AFAIK.

This is an interesting point. Right now, I can't reconcile the "we canceled active sessions thus logging people out" as a fix with the fact that "View As" was the attack vector.

It's likely the fix required the kill active sessions which cause new keys to be generated on sign in
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