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Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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What are some secure Facebook Messenger alternatives to use? The only reason I currently have Facebook is because of the ease behind Messenger but I do not want to continue using their services. I also need to be able to convince my friends to try a different platform since I want to be able to continue to communicate with them. Any advice?

Totally understand, instead you can use WhatsApp

Or Instagram has great messaging, and if you’re brave oculus can do great VR chat!

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

#122

Recently talked to 2 friends working for fb. According to them, the culture there is very toxic. For a master's degree, once get in, you need to get promoted in 22 months (I might misremember the actual number.) or you will have to leave. Debugging is never counted as a real work, so for quick promotion, nobody wants to solve bugs unless a bug becomes too obvious. And they also complained about no work-life balance.…

What, exactly, is wrong with the expectation that people make senior level eventually? What exactly is wrong with being able to work at any time? I worked there for years, and if I was landing code at 12am, it was because I was excited about what I was doing. It was wonderful being able to work with people from all over the world on high-impact projects, and fixing important bugs was definitely high-impact. People wh…

Sounds like you're drowning in Kool-aid

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

#123

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What you call being "excited about working at 12am" I call "accepting being a corporate slave".

I don't think you can so glibly dismiss enthusiasm as Stockholm syndrome. Passionate people push the world forward, and mocking passion is a recipe for mediocrity and stagnation.

Facebook is a cancer. It’s not “pushing the world forward.” It’s a phenomenal waste of energy.

Take those excited geniuses and have them work on preventing climate change from ruining all life on earth, instead of inventing new ways to profit off of people’s data.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Recently talked to 2 friends working for fb. According to them, the culture there is very toxic. For a master's degree, once get in, you need to get promoted in 22 months (I might misremember the actual number.) or you will have to leave. Debugging is never counted as a real work, so for quick promotion, nobody wants to solve bugs unless a bug becomes too obvious. And they also complained about no work-life balance.…

What, exactly, is wrong with the expectation that people make senior level eventually? What exactly is wrong with being able to work at any time? I worked there for years, and if I was landing code at 12am, it was because I was excited about what I was doing. It was wonderful being able to work with people from all over the world on high-impact projects, and fixing important bugs was definitely high-impact. People wh…

>> you need to get promoted in 22 months ... or you will have to leave

> What, exactly, is wrong with the expectation that people make senior level eventually?

The problem is when you base too much on promotion systems and performance reviews, that end up as a form of bias and favoritism not closely approximating the truth. Some amount of people are doing useful work for you (like cleaning up after people you think are the high performers) that does not surface there, and when you crap on them, pass them up, bust their morale, make them afraid of their next review, etc., you risk losing their valuable contributions.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you call being "excited about working at 12am" I call "accepting being a corporate slave".

I don't think you can so glibly dismiss enthusiasm as Stockholm syndrome. Passionate people push the world forward, and mocking passion is a recipe for mediocrity and stagnation.

I think i'd just much rather spend the short time I've got left in my one existence doing things outside of work that actually make me happy and fulfilled, than being exploited for the benefit of the mostly rich and powerful and the illusion of "progress". If you truly get fulfillment from that stuff then more power to you, but I don't think the vast majority of people who are pressured to perform do.

Just because we have more "stuff" and more advanced "technology" doesn't make life more worth living. Happiness levels across society don't increase alongside productivity.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

#126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you call being "excited about working at 12am" I call "accepting being a corporate slave".

I don't think you can so glibly dismiss enthusiasm as Stockholm syndrome. Passionate people push the world forward, and mocking passion is a recipe for mediocrity and stagnation.

I think she probably meant that being passionate without meaningful equity is equal to being a corporate slave - even if ultimately company/world benefits, the person gets discarded/sacrificed at some point in a hierarchical structure with limited upward movement, not profiting from it in the future.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

#127
Said this yesterday in the other Facebook thread, and I'll say it again.

Working for Facebook is a morally bankrupt position. If you are an engineer you have plenty of job opportunities available to you and there is no excuse for you to continue contributing your labor and time to a wholly malignant organization. At a certain point one has to ask how we as an industry will start dealing with those who continue to take a paycheck from Facebook even in the face of constant and horrific evidence of wholesale ethical violations and negligence.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Is it wrong to be glad FB's reputation has tarnished (and stock price sideways) over the past year or so? For so long they've monopolized the talent pool in the Bay Area. If more people decide 1) they don't want to work at FB and 2) FB employees are itching to leave then I see any stain on FB's employment brand as a net positive to the greater tech + startup ecosystem.

Based on their privacy issues, influence scandal, etc. its scary to imagine what the company looks like without the best and brightest.

I think about this a lot too. All companies eventually decline or go through rough patches. A Google that's fighting for survival and losing money would be much more open to working with the Chinese government or selling user data to the highest bidder.

Trusting these entities based on their noble intentions today makes no sense to me if there's no legal agreement or regulation to restrain them tomorrow, when they get desperate.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Could have been any other mechanism on the site.

...but it wasn't. Which is the point, no?

I don't think that matters. "I hate travelling by air because the plane can crash" is a true statement for many people... but statistically, that's not the method of transportation that kills people.

The fact of the matter is... ACLs are hard to get right. It's even harder when you have various roles that can be checked against the ACL (logged in user, batch job, logged in user impersonating someone, etc.) . But in the end, complexity is what's scary, not some feature that depends on complexity.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you can so glibly dismiss enthusiasm as Stockholm syndrome. Passionate people push the world forward, and mocking passion is a recipe for mediocrity and stagnation.

I think i'd just much rather spend the short time I've got left in my one existence doing things outside of work that actually make me happy and fulfilled, than being exploited for the benefit of the mostly rich and powerful and the illusion of "progress". If you truly get fulfillment from that stuff then more power to you, but I don't think the vast majority of people who are pressured to perform do. Just because we…

> I think i'd just much rather spend the short time I've got left in my one existence doing things outside of work

Okay. That's your choice. But having made this choice, don't complain when those of us who choose to devote more time to work receive greater rewards. There's nothing wrong with paying for performance.

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