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Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by quotemstr »

wfwefwef32 wrote: post #37

Recently talked to 2 friends working for fb. According to them, the culture there is very toxic. For a master's degree, once get in, you need to get promoted in 22 months (I might misremember the actual number.) or you will have to leave. Debugging is never counted as a real work, so for quick promotion, nobody wants to solve bugs unless a bug becomes too obvious. And they also complained about no work-life balance.…

What, exactly, is wrong with the expectation that people make senior level eventually? What exactly is wrong with being able to work at any time? I worked there for years, and if I was landing code at 12am, it was because I was excited about what I was doing. It was wonderful being able to work with people from all over the world on high-impact projects, and fixing important bugs was definitely high-impact. People who fixed vexsome bugs were heroes.

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Post by akhilcacharya »

make3 wrote: post #52
ummonk wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How have they monopolized the talent pool? By paying their employees better than everyone else?

there is also prestige associated to big names like Facebook (and Google, Apple, etc)

What other big companies are associated with similar prestige?

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by olkid »

IvyMike wrote: post #45

So here is a question: my girlfriend only uses FB on her laptop, and always logs out when she's done. I usually make fun of her for doing this. But does this mean most of the time that there was no active access token and she is mostly safe? (Excluding the windows of time where she was actively using FB) Do I have to take back all of my teasing?

Logging out when finished with an online service is good practice. You should do it too. (and don't make fun of her) :-)

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Post by ng12 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #63
make3 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there is also prestige associated to big names like Facebook (and Google, Apple, etc)

> there is also prestige associated to big names I hate that this has happened. The Bay Area used to be a place where working for the big, shiny company that makes your parents happy wasn't prestigious. It was safe. But taking a risk and starting something new was admired. The present state of affairs reminds me of Wall Street.

It was a little different when you could afford to buy a house in the Bay Area without $2m in the bank.

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by refurb »

laken wrote: post #67
testplzignore wrote: post #53

Fun fact: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/09/security-update/ was published at 16:42:44. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/technology/facebook-hack-... was published at 16:45:41. NYT writes fast :)

In the journalism world, pre-written articles are apparently quite common. I assume they had a boilerplate already for the next Facebook controversy, and just wrote 2-3 opening paragraphs that were relevant for this one. CNN many years ago accidentally left some of their pre-written obituaries for (living) world figures publically accessible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_premature_obituaries#T...

The FB press release was probably shared early with the agreement it would be embargoed by the media until FB made it official.

It's not uncommon. It's how you build "friendly" relationships with the media. I scratch your back, you scratch mine.

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Post by quotemstr »

itsdrewmiller wrote: post #65

Fun quotes from all of two months ago: 'Facebook is clearly aware that losing its chief security officer and dissolving its dedicated security team, in the middle of all that’s going on, is not a great look. So many of the company’s statements today are clearly designed to address obvious concerns that arise. “We expect to be judged on what we do to protect people’s security, not whether we have someone with a certai…

It is essential that tech companies, especially ones that provide critical infrastructure, place technical excellence above other priorities. Denigrating meritocracy is like pollution: the impact may not be immediate, and in the short term, it may look like you can have your cake and eat it too, but the universe is not caring and not kind, and if you forget about the need for excellence in the continual struggle against entropy, nature will eventually get around to teaching you a harsh and remedial lesson.

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Post by akhilcacharya »

dawhizkid wrote: post #9

Is it wrong to be glad FB's reputation has tarnished (and stock price sideways) over the past year or so? For so long they've monopolized the talent pool in the Bay Area. If more people decide 1) they don't want to work at FB and 2) FB employees are itching to leave then I see any stain on FB's employment brand as a net positive to the greater tech + startup ecosystem.

From everyone I know at top tech companies this isn't happening at all. If anything the stock dip was a good thing for new grads because they got more shares.

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Post by EGreg »

lukebennett wrote: post #43
EGreg wrote: post #28

On the one hand, every time another scandal or breach is revealed about centralized networks, I want to post this and have everyone recognize the root problem and the solution: https://Qbix.com (see the video) On the other hand, I feel like I’m shamelessly promoting/shilling my own company. How to do it in a classy way? I really believe that there is a problem people are not recognizing enough to do something about i…

Seeing as you asked... your website's terrible UX doesn't help. I just took a look and moved on within 30 seconds - a dated look and feel (that also feels targeted at primary school teachers), walls of text, broken links, no clear route back to the homepage to reorient yourself (can't click the logo), no clear waypoints to follow... You only get one chance to make a first impression. I'm afraid the first impression I…

Which links were broken?

What makes it dated specifically? Versus let’s say https://joinmastodon.org/

Also did you visit from a mobile phone or desktop?

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Post by gaahrdner »

quotemstr wrote: post #86
itsdrewmiller wrote: post #65

Fun quotes from all of two months ago: 'Facebook is clearly aware that losing its chief security officer and dissolving its dedicated security team, in the middle of all that’s going on, is not a great look. So many of the company’s statements today are clearly designed to address obvious concerns that arise. “We expect to be judged on what we do to protect people’s security, not whether we have someone with a certai…

It is essential that tech companies, especially ones that provide critical infrastructure, place technical excellence above other priorities. Denigrating meritocracy is like pollution: the impact may not be immediate, and in the short term, it may look like you can have your cake and eat it too, but the universe is not caring and not kind, and if you forget about the need for excellence in the continual struggle agai…

Is Facebook now considered critical infrastructure?

Re: Facebook Network Breach Impacts Up to 50M Users

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Post by lainga »

ummonk wrote: post #36
dawhizkid wrote: post #9

Is it wrong to be glad FB's reputation has tarnished (and stock price sideways) over the past year or so? For so long they've monopolized the talent pool in the Bay Area. If more people decide 1) they don't want to work at FB and 2) FB employees are itching to leave then I see any stain on FB's employment brand as a net positive to the greater tech + startup ecosystem.

How have they monopolized the talent pool? By paying their employees better than everyone else?

By hiring talent out of college when every other company's looking for 10 years of experience in Kubernetes.
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