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Bytedance said to be valued at over $75B in new round

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Re: Bytedance said to be valued at over $75B in new round

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post #7

> Bytedance now faces questions over when or even how it will start making a profit. $75B value and it still faces the most basic question. Makes me feel I don't understand business at all. Also its main app seems to be musically. I have only heard of it but it seems a little to an app like Dubsmash. Did dubsmash ever make any money? What is the business model for such apps?

The TV show Silicon Valley explained it all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAdXyPYKQo

Re: Bytedance said to be valued at over $75B in new round

#42
post #7

> Bytedance now faces questions over when or even how it will start making a profit. $75B value and it still faces the most basic question. Makes me feel I don't understand business at all. Also its main app seems to be musically. I have only heard of it but it seems a little to an app like Dubsmash. Did dubsmash ever make any money? What is the business model for such apps?

I've never used Musica.ly myself, and I don't have any kids of my own, but I came across this video [0] where a Youtuber looked at clips from it. It seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen, I can't see how it could be worth that much money. I wouldn't want any of my future kids anywhere near there.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PmphkNDosg (NSFW language)

Re: Bytedance said to be valued at over $75B in new round

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post #24
post #9

>35-Year-Old Unknown First of all, that's rude. Second, if they have a $75b valuation and no profit plan, that's not likely a good sign. I doubt China's P2P and venture capital markets are related, but I'd bet they gave a high valuation just to grab headlines. Also, it'll eventually get censored like everything else in China, so 'doing better than Baidu' is probably temporary.

>First of all, that's rude. Real question: Is there some social etiquette rule that says describing a person to a news audience as "unknown" is being rude? Honestly, I've never heard of that. If I created a billion dollar company and Bloomberg called me "an unknown" , I'd consider it a massive compliment. It means that I was able to grow the company totally under the radar without any distracting interview requests f…

I guess the problem is the combination of "35-year-old" with "unknown".

Seems the 35yo bit is irrelevant to the story, that's neither old nor young: you can have a significant career by that point and you are a long way from retiring. So I can understand some people from the Valley would think this is just another case of ageism.

A bit like saying "A Black Woman left me her seat in the bus" can be suspicious even though it is factual.

Re: Bytedance said to be valued at over $75B in new round

#45
ByteDance also made news for "highest salaries in the world" and "unlimited salary for unlimited talent". $1M USD salaries plus options.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-small-business/wp/201...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-24/in-battle...

Re: Bytedance said to be valued at over $75B in new round

#47
post #2

I feel like I've been living under a rock. I've never heard of Bytedance. Is it mostly unknown in the western world?

I'm not in the western world, but News Republic is on plenty of phones around here, as part of the initial bloatware. I have not used the product myself, so this is not a comment on the quality of the product.

Re: Bytedance said to be valued at over $75B in new round

#48
post #9

>35-Year-Old Unknown First of all, that's rude. Second, if they have a $75b valuation and no profit plan, that's not likely a good sign. I doubt China's P2P and venture capital markets are related, but I'd bet they gave a high valuation just to grab headlines. Also, it'll eventually get censored like everything else in China, so 'doing better than Baidu' is probably temporary.

"Unknown" is not an insult. It's not rude. It just means that he was not prominent before this company. It's actually somewhat of a compliment, because you generally expect gradual rises in fame and performance, not meteoric ones. So to say " unknown X does great thing Y" is more complimentary to X than saying "X does great thing Y".

whose definition of 'prominent' ? many, many assumptions there

Re: Bytedance said to be valued at over $75B in new round

#49
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was helpful: http://bytedance.com/products/

seems weird it does not force redirect to https? https://bytedance.com/products/

It doesnt need to have the S in http - the AI does it all for you!

Ill say it again A dot freaking I.

Bam! $75B right there.

Re: Bytedance said to be valued at over $75B in new round

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post #9

>35-Year-Old Unknown First of all, that's rude. Second, if they have a $75b valuation and no profit plan, that's not likely a good sign. I doubt China's P2P and venture capital markets are related, but I'd bet they gave a high valuation just to grab headlines. Also, it'll eventually get censored like everything else in China, so 'doing better than Baidu' is probably temporary.

I'd wear "Unknown" as a badge of honor.
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