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Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#71
post #66

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Why can't this be done offline?

> Why can't this be done offline? Where? On every device a user owns?

That’s what Apple does to some extend. “Siri found in mail” contacts and events. Maybe some more.

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#73
post #46

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You can't think up a single reason why you might not want every purchase you've made in your entire life to be logged in a centralized database completely outside of your control and view which will be kept forever and shared with an unknowable amount of unknown powerful entities that do not care about your well-being? Some people are going to have a very rough time when reality finally strikes them with all of its m…

> when reality finally strikes them with all of its might. In case someone accuses @ve55 of melodrama, "reality" could be as banal as your most embarrassing personal emails leaking to the world.

That seems like an argument against centralized mail hosts, which is a very different thing that what this thread is ostensibly for.

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#74
post #68
post #46

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You can't think up a single reason why you might not want every purchase you've made in your entire life to be logged in a centralized database completely outside of your control and view which will be kept forever and shared with an unknowable amount of unknown powerful entities that do not care about your well-being? Some people are going to have a very rough time when reality finally strikes them with all of its m…

They already have my email receipts, what's the difference? I use venmo - they have it too. My credit card companies are private companies. Where's the outrage regarding them? Google does not reveal my identity to partners; What you're spreading is fake news.

>Google does not reveal my identity to partners; What you're spreading is fake news. We know for a fact data was at least shared with the NSA in the past. We also know Google complies with legal requests, could have a partial data breach in the future, could change terms or undergo some type of merger or acquisition which would include your data, etc.

The point here is that it is completely outside of your control. If you want to give all of the control in your life to Google because they have treated you (mostly) well (so far), that's up to you. But as for myself and others, we will refrain because we can think up many reasons why it might not be a smart choice in the long run.

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#75
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't this be done offline?

> Why can't this be done offline? Where? On every device a user owns?

Yes. A better question would be “why does google itself need this information when it’s just a client side UI feature?”

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#77
post #46
post #21

I kind of like this. It's already in my email, which they host. I don't see why I should not want this feature, where they aggregate helpful information for me.

You can't think up a single reason why you might not want every purchase you've made in your entire life to be logged in a centralized database completely outside of your control and view which will be kept forever and shared with an unknowable amount of unknown powerful entities that do not care about your well-being? Some people are going to have a very rough time when reality finally strikes them with all of its m…

Retailers and Credit Card companies have been trading your purchasing data for decades. Acxiom has made billions doing exactly that since the 90s. "Database marketing" companies are just ad networks based on consumer purchasing behavior they buy from retailers and CC companies.

The difference is that those data brokers are just terrible at actually delivering products and value from the data they are getting. At least Google can make their "free" services better as a result.

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#78
post #19

I've always assumed they do this since they've recognized and surfaced flight and event information for years. I thought about switching my email to iCloud but I'm afraid Apple's going to change the domain yet again. And gmail is hella reliable. Google of old might have done something cool with this info and annotated the purchases with something like "14,391 people bought this for an average of $1.08 less" or "you p…

My @mac.com account still works. But yeah perpetually changing domains is irksome.

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#79
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't think up a single reason why you might not want every purchase you've made in your entire life to be logged in a centralized database completely outside of your control and view which will be kept forever and shared with an unknowable amount of unknown powerful entities that do not care about your well-being? Some people are going to have a very rough time when reality finally strikes them with all of its m…

> when reality finally strikes them with all of its might. In case someone accuses @ve55 of melodrama, "reality" could be as banal as your most embarrassing personal emails leaking to the world.

It could, but an email leak can be much more than it sounds. We have already had data breaches that have resulted in multiple deaths[1].

Just wait until we have one many times worse than this. Data breaches of the future will cause more than just a few suicides. Some may eventually cause war.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Madison_data_breach#Imp....

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#80
post #19

I've always assumed they do this since they've recognized and surfaced flight and event information for years. I thought about switching my email to iCloud but I'm afraid Apple's going to change the domain yet again. And gmail is hella reliable. Google of old might have done something cool with this info and annotated the purchases with something like "14,391 people bought this for an average of $1.08 less" or "you p…

>I thought about switching my email to iCloud but I'm afraid Apple's going to change the domain yet again.

My ancient @mac.com email address still works (I think it's 16 years old now). So does my girlfriend's @me.com. You're worrying about wrong things.

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