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Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

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Am I overreacting by seriously considering starting the process of migrating from gmail? It's not this singular incident of course, but just the continued pattern of behavior from Google for the last couple years. I really have lost all faith in them respecting their users.

I did, and I found out it's actually not as hard as you would think. I think I even prefer FastMail's web client. Register your own domain, own the address, and then future migrations are way easier.

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

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It's also likely that Google buys a copy of your credit card purchase history.

>Google has been able to track your location using Google Maps for a long time. Since 2014, it has used that information to provide advertisers with information on how often people visit their stores. But store visits aren’t purchases, so, as Google said in a blog post on its new service for marketers, it has partnered with “third parties” that give them access to 70 percent of all credit and debit card purchases.

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/607938/google-now-tracks-...

Finding that tidbit out was my own personal bridge too far.

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

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post #5

I was shocked when I stumbled on this. All of my purchases, have been scraped from my emails, including every line item, where I purchased these items from and so on. If they are scraping this from my emails without my permission, what else are they scraping? What else does Google know about me? If everything in my emails is scraped by Google it is possible that they know more about me than I do about myself. Very sc…

> If they are scraping this from my emails without my permission, what else are they scraping? YOU GAVE THEM YOUR PERMISSION. Maybe, in the future, read the TOS and Privacy Policies rather than just pressing accept and acting offended when they do EXACTLY what they said they'd do. Had you done that, you'd also know exactly who has access to that information and, if you read when they notify you of policy updates, who…

What good paid alternatives are there?

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

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post #19

I've always assumed they do this since they've recognized and surfaced flight and event information for years. I thought about switching my email to iCloud but I'm afraid Apple's going to change the domain yet again. And gmail is hella reliable. Google of old might have done something cool with this info and annotated the purchases with something like "14,391 people bought this for an average of $1.08 less" or "you p…

To counter on the point of "Google of old might have done something cool with this info"

This is very, VERY subjective. Even if Google did something like "you pay $7.44 per month more than the average Comcast customer in your area" there will be very similar posts detailing how 'Google reads your monthly payment data'.

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#28

Am I overreacting by seriously considering starting the process of migrating from gmail? It's not this singular incident of course, but just the continued pattern of behavior from Google for the last couple years. I really have lost all faith in them respecting their users.

ProtonMail (free/paid) and Runbox (paid only, but reasonable) are a couple of other options.

There's also the option of running your own server, but it seems deliverability is an issue.

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If they are scraping this from my emails without my permission, what else are they scraping? YOU GAVE THEM YOUR PERMISSION. Maybe, in the future, read the TOS and Privacy Policies rather than just pressing accept and acting offended when they do EXACTLY what they said they'd do. Had you done that, you'd also know exactly who has access to that information and, if you read when they notify you of policy updates, who…

What good paid alternatives are there?

Fastmail

Re: See all your purchases, subscriptions and reservations

#30

Am I overreacting by seriously considering starting the process of migrating from gmail? It's not this singular incident of course, but just the continued pattern of behavior from Google for the last couple years. I really have lost all faith in them respecting their users.

Apparently we're late to migrate, but I recently started the move to RainLoop:

https://www.rainloop.net/ is actually much better software in my opinion, and is self-hosted unlike FastMail.

Rainloop satisfies the need for polished, smooth, elegant, yet simple "feeling" interfaces like Gmail finally became.

Handles multiple identities, multiple accounts, and contacts well; but no calendar.

Way better than Zimbra webmail, though that does have Calendars. On my local machine, I still use RainLoop rather than a traditional email client, it's that good.

ProtonMail, also mentioned, doesn't seem far off, but seems to lack the extra polish. It's in the neighborhood of RainLoop though, it would appear.

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