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Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by emilfihlman »

dcbadacd wrote: post #80
JohannesH wrote: post #32

Do cloudflare want to be registrar for other foreign TLDs in the future? I would love to see them support TLDs such as .dk, .de, .it etc. That way both me and my clients could begin consolidating domain registration in one place, instead of using expensive and shitty domain registration management services. Harder ones, like Tonga (.to) or Greenland (.gl) would be nice to have as well, but I don't think it's feasible…

.ee would be lovely as well, current registrars are honestly meh, there's maybe one I'd trust in the entire list.

You can become a .ee registrar quite easily iirc. At least you can for .fi

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by conradev »

ksec wrote: post #24

I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

Interesting that no one here has mentioned Google Domains:

- It has no up-sells

- I trust Google's security more than Cloudflare's

- It has decent customer support, unlike some of Google's other products

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by Mistri »

conradev wrote: post #133
ksec wrote: post #24

I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

Interesting that no one here has mentioned Google Domains: - It has no up-sells - I trust Google's security more than Cloudflare's - It has decent customer support, unlike some of Google's other products

From a quick look at https://domains.google, it seems like all domains start at $12/year. That's definitely not wholesale.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by elithrar »

nickjj wrote: post #15
zackbloom wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have the answer to that yet. On the one hand it's a bit far afield of what we normally do. On the other a lot of people seem to get it from their registrar and rely on it. The ideal situation would be if we could find a way to do email forwarding which wasn't just as good as what they do, but was exciting and meaningful. We'll keep thinking about it and let you know on our blog.

If you want to blow everyone away then I think you should start with giving free real inboxes for everyone (maybe with some sane limit, or a way to pay per month to increase it), and then introduce email forwarding in the future (because I'm sure some people will still want that feature even with real inboxes available). If you GA'd with: ~$8 .com addresses, N real inboxes, free whois guard and a top notch DNS record…

It's compelling to you, but managing email infrastructure is a huge burden - users actively spamming, compromised users spamming, RBLs, security, myriad email clients - there seems to be little synergy here with the rest of Cloudflare's infrastructure (DNS + a big proxy stack).

I say this as both someone who worked at a hosting company doing managed email a long time ago, before the industry had consolidated to the extent it has now, and as an ex-employee.

At wholesale registrar pricing, N real inboxes - is that attracting the right kind of users at scale? At least with their current freemium + addons model, it's fairly hands-off, with the hopes of capturing rapidly growing startups in the process. I don't think you can replicate that with email at all.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by brandur »

conradev wrote: post #133
ksec wrote: post #24

I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

Interesting that no one here has mentioned Google Domains: - It has no up-sells - I trust Google's security more than Cloudflare's - It has decent customer support, unlike some of Google's other products

Aside from the price, one very good reason to be interested in CloudFlare as a registrar compared to Google Domains is that CloudFlare supports CNAME flattening [1] so that you can use a CNAME instead of an IP address for an A record (AKA "ALIAS" on DNSimple or Route53).

I'm using Google Domains right now, but have been using CloudFlare to host my DNS for ages for this reason alone. I'll think about transferring my domains to them when the time comes to take one service out of the equation.

[1] https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200169056-C...

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by krn »

conradev wrote: post #133
ksec wrote: post #24

I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

Interesting that no one here has mentioned Google Domains: - It has no up-sells - I trust Google's security more than Cloudflare's - It has decent customer support, unlike some of Google's other products

Google Domains is only available in 15 countries[1]. Also, I wouldn't use a personal Google account to register a domain name for a company.

[1] https://support.google.com/domains/answer/4639612?hl=en

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by maxgashkov »

WordSkill wrote: post #37
Boulth wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, it's hard to believe they don't support U2F yet. Even smaller providers such as OVH have U2F for a long time.

Yeah, very surprising. Perhaps companies lose the ability to get this stuff done as they grow larger. An even more shocking example is Transferwise, supposedly a cutting-edge star of the "fintech" scene. They use SMS-based codes, a wildly insecure form of OTP. Over a thousand employees and they cannot even implement some sort of app-based TOTP (such as Google Authenticator) to protect their clients' money.

Transferwise is quite low risk in this regard. They don't have a balance or anything like that, it's only moving money between 2 accounts in a transactional manner.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by krn »

ksec wrote: post #24

I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

> I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain.

It makes sense not to charge for something that is not your core product and drives the customers to your core product, when that something is a low-margin business, and your core product is a high-margin business.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by shazow »

conradev wrote: post #133
ksec wrote: post #24

I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

Interesting that no one here has mentioned Google Domains: - It has no up-sells - I trust Google's security more than Cloudflare's - It has decent customer support, unlike some of Google's other products

Also free reliable email forwarding.
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