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Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by awill »

WordSkill wrote: post #35
jpswade wrote: post #31

Tucows made hover.com to try and solve this exact problem. How does this differ?

Price: $8.03 vs $14.99

All my domains are with Hover. Good customer support, reasonable UI, 2FA. I'm pretty happy with them.

Sure, it's a little more expensive, but I actually like the no upsell, stable prices, no coupon codes etc..

Most importantly, there's a number to call. I've never had to call it in my 7 years with them, but I'm glad it's there for emergencies.

A domain is so, so important, I don't see "we're a few bucks cheaper" as a selling point.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by awill »

LakeAustin wrote: post #9
r1ch wrote: post #4

This sounds great. Hopefully the TLD coverage is extensive, I dislike having my domains split across multiple registrars based on their supported extensions.

We want to help you consolidate those! Full list here for TLDs supported at launch, but we're busy working to add more before then. https://www.cloudflare.com/tld-policies/

surprised at no '.me' and '.io'. They're pretty popular. Presumably they'll come later.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by jopsen »

daxorid wrote: post #46
zackbloom wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I appreciate that these decisions can seem easy, but broadly do you want a private company deciding what can be on the internet, or do you want that decision made by a judge with due process?

Matt Prince already decided "what can be on the internet" when he banned Daily Stormer. As far as Cloudflare is concerned, that ship already sailed.

I think the issue was that the Daily Stormer communicated that the fact that cloudflare hadn't banned them was a form of support or endorsement.

It seems reasonable to put a lid on that.

I do see the moral dilemma though.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by devtique »

One of the most pleasant Service switches I’ve made is switching from the Dark UX pattern infested Go Daddy, to the cleaner and more minimal Google Domains. It’s a little more expensive at $12 .com domains but it’s worth it to avoid wading through the sleazy up sell tactics of Go Daddy.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by kweks »

zawerf wrote: post #67
Bluestrike2 wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think [0] is the article in question; just search the page for the namecheap comments. 0. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18059792

It seems like it was just a handful of users who posted their story multiple times. The users highclass, ethanwillis, kweks all had multiple comments only about namecheap on a thread that wasn't directly about namecheap. Can I get more horror stories to confirm those are real? It's unfortunate because namecheap used to have the exact opposite reputation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3396606

I was one of the upvoted posters there. TLDR: I was issued couriered C&Ds to a postal and email address only used on Namecheap.

The attacking party had no court order, subpoena, judgement, etc.

Ted from namecheap asked me to email him. He confirmed legal had received the complaints, but said they hadn't replied.

He hasn't replied to my email since (3 days ago) to offer any explanation how the attacking lawyers got details on in NC.

YMMV, but it is a real issue, which cost me just under 2k in legal fees to unwind. I am definitely moving away from NC, sadly, after 10 years.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by benchplz »

bdcravens wrote: post #54
ksec wrote: post #24

I wouldn't have cared much about Domain Name Register just a week ago, but after what happen at Zoho, and all the horror story in the comments section from namecheap and others, Cloudflare Registar couldn't come at a better time. I really wish Cloudflare at least made $1 or $2 Gross Profits per domain. Who paids for Domain Register Support? I would much rather be a "customer" than I am not sure where they are making…

> How do other companies made money when they are selling it for $0.99 or $6.99 Private Whois, Email, Hosting, SSL, etc offered as up-sells Article actually addresses this: "With a good idea on how to build a more secure registrar we asked our customers what they hated about their current registrar. Two phrases kept coming up: "bait and switch" and “endless upsell.”"

when the domain renews it charges full price in many cases.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by faster »

jjeaff wrote: post #75
zawerf wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like it was just a handful of users who posted their story multiple times. The users highclass, ethanwillis, kweks all had multiple comments only about namecheap on a thread that wasn't directly about namecheap. Can I get more horror stories to confirm those are real? It's unfortunate because namecheap used to have the exact opposite reputation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3396606

I have used them for years and never had a problem. However, they are slowly creeping their prices upward. .com is now a little over $13.00 and they just this year made domain proxy (hiding your contact info on whois) free. I have been moving my stuff to porkbun.com. They are US based and $8.84 for a .com. Cloudflare is an interesting offering, although as of right now, it's not actually launched and it appears that…

Yay for porkbun.com! My office is near theirs; nice people, great price. The admin site is pretty bare-bones, but I've never had a problem with it.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by Meekro »

convery wrote: post #77

While I'm sure few of us would have controversial domains, let's remember that Cloudflare have removed the DNS records of sites that they didn't like in the past[0]. [0] - https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

Very true, but the risk of using them should be weighed against the risk of not using them. Don't forget that pretty much all other registrars were much more eager than Cloudflare to shut down Daily Stormer, and expose you to Zoho-type risk that Cloudflare claims to mitigate.

Re: Introducing Cloudflare Registrar

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Post by r1ch »

zackbloom wrote: post #85
andreygrehov wrote: post #78

Security wise, are you on par with MarkMonitor?

Our Custom Domain Protection is even more secure than MarkMonitor, but the overhead of doing that also makes it almost as expensive. Our at-cost standard domain service includes as much security as we can build into it without a large human component being required (2fa, etc.).

I've been trying to find a registrar with more-than-normal security without much luck. I want a registrar that will stand up to a sophisticated social engineering attack using leaked documents and personal information etc. The big names like MarkMonitor start at like $50k, mid-range ones like CSC leave me with an uneasy feeling given they do so many things with a clunky web UI and over email. I don't really even know any other options in this space.

One option that could scale well with the standard service is allowing customers to upload photo ID / business registration etc and locking down the account so that customer support can never touch anything. Should the customer lose their password / 2FA etc, then they would need to physically go to an office location for ID verification (and a $xxx inconvenience fee). I've had some limited success implementing this system with conventional registrars but I would be more comfortable if it were an actual product offering.

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