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All of which is completely unsubstantiated rumor attached to a blurry picture that could just as easily have been any number of 3rd party ROM themes... Edit: Also, good luck seeing Google Voice/SIP over data connection if you ever intend on buying a carrier-released phone. Or at least not without paying a surcharge equivalent to the cost of a voice plan a la tethering.
Why would you ever do such a silly thing?
All of which is completely unsubstantiated rumor attached to a blurry picture that could just as easily have been any number of 3rd party ROM themes... Edit: Also, good luck seeing Google Voice/SIP over data connection if you ever intend on buying a carrier-released phone. Or at least not without paying a surcharge equivalent to the cost of a voice plan a la tethering.
Verizon, for example, could say "Yes, we sell this Android 3.0 phone and you can make VOIP calls on it - you only have to buy this expensive LTE data plan from us".
Carriers can easily embrace this and make even more money from it than from minutes.
All of which is completely unsubstantiated rumor attached to a blurry picture that could just as easily have been any number of 3rd party ROM themes... Edit: Also, good luck seeing Google Voice/SIP over data connection if you ever intend on buying a carrier-released phone. Or at least not without paying a surcharge equivalent to the cost of a voice plan a la tethering.
Do you think Google would implement it if carriers wouldn't agree? Maybe. But I think the carriers will support that feature. Why? It's simple. Verizon, for example, could say "Yes, we sell this Android 3.0 phone and you can make VOIP calls on it - you only have to buy this expensive LTE data plan from us". Carriers can easily embrace this and make even more money from it than from minutes.
Whether the rumors are true or not, I'm really hoping for and looking forward to a version of Google Voice that works entirely over the phone's data connection. With Skype caller-id now supporting Google Voice numbers and Skype on Android, we're close, but not entirely there yet.
Not to be a buzz kill, but I think that's the first thing that will be carrier disabled. The downside to Android's openness is that carriers are open to disable features that they don't like. And they certainly have been pushing against "dumb pipe" since there's still plenty of money in selling "minutes".
... which isn't feasible or possible on the scale you'd be talking about.
All of which is completely unsubstantiated rumor attached to a blurry picture that could just as easily have been any number of 3rd party ROM themes... Edit: Also, good luck seeing Google Voice/SIP over data connection if you ever intend on buying a carrier-released phone. Or at least not without paying a surcharge equivalent to the cost of a voice plan a la tethering.
There is so much fearmongering on here from fanboys on both sides (carriers will block it, carriers won't support it, fragmentation every other word...). It's worse than other places. And that's saying something.
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Do you think Google would implement it if carriers wouldn't agree? Maybe. But I think the carriers will support that feature. Why? It's simple. Verizon, for example, could say "Yes, we sell this Android 3.0 phone and you can make VOIP calls on it - you only have to buy this expensive LTE data plan from us". Carriers can easily embrace this and make even more money from it than from minutes.
People aren't that dumb; they're only interested in VoIP to save money. As soon as it costs more, people will be back to circuit-switched voice calls (which are higher quality anyway).
All of which is completely unsubstantiated rumor attached to a blurry picture that could just as easily have been any number of 3rd party ROM themes... Edit: Also, good luck seeing Google Voice/SIP over data connection if you ever intend on buying a carrier-released phone. Or at least not without paying a surcharge equivalent to the cost of a voice plan a la tethering.
You can buy data only plans through VZW. They offer them for deaf/mute people but they're legally obligated to sell them to everyone. It's not even hard to find. There is so much fearmongering on here from fanboys on both sides (carriers will block it, carriers won't support it, fragmentation every other word...). It's worse than other places. And that's saying something.
All of which is completely unsubstantiated rumor attached to a blurry picture that could just as easily have been any number of 3rd party ROM themes... Edit: Also, good luck seeing Google Voice/SIP over data connection if you ever intend on buying a carrier-released phone. Or at least not without paying a surcharge equivalent to the cost of a voice plan a la tethering.
> if you ever intend on buying a carrier-released phone Why would you ever do such a silly thing?
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Perhaps, but Verizon's LTE will be a "dumb pipe": https://www22.verizon.com/opendev/faq.aspx It will be interesting to see what happens.
What leads you to believe that Verizon or any other carrier wants to become a dumb pipe?? A decade of contrary statements to the press suggests otherwise.
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Not to be a buzz kill, but I think that's the first thing that will be carrier disabled. The downside to Android's openness is that carriers are open to disable features that they don't like. And they certainly have been pushing against "dumb pipe" since there's still plenty of money in selling "minutes".
That's not something the carrier can disable. The Google Voice APK is a side loadable app. The only way VZW/ATT could kill it is if they sniffed the traffic from EVERY SINGLE PHONE and tried to block access to the SIP endpoint. ... which isn't feasible or possible on the scale you'd be talking about.