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Re: Bloated

#2
I for one absolutely agree with you that the web has gotten too bloated, especially news websites, and I salute your initiative for "debloating" your blog. This is a path that more of us should follow.

I think Google's AMP project is a step in the right direction, but it seems to me that it's not adopted enough.

Re: Bloated

#3
Does adblock + custom element filtering not help against such sites? If every additional feature that takes up more computing resources provides a slightly higher chance to retain the average user and thus make more advertising revenue, I don't see why large sites would not riddle their sites with such features.

Of course, it's sad that happens; but I think adblock sufficiently solves this.

As a side-note, I recently installed DNS66 on my android device and the internet is much faster. Using the mainstream web without adblock seems to be difficult these days.

Re: Bloated

#4
In my experience outline.com does a bang up job of getting all that clutter out. I am not in any way affiliated with them and don't even know how they monetize but I hope they stick around for as long as possible.

Re: Bloated

#5
This is why is I keep using RSS even though many people say it's dead.

I even went ahead to create a curated feed [2] for Hacker News to pair with my RSS reader [3].

I stopped doing casual web browsing years ago when many web owners started to bloat their websites with an extravagant amount of ads, excessive JavaScript code, and unnecessary "enhancements" (like custom scrolling experiences and the like). Nowadays, websites like Hacker News, the old Reddit interface, Craiglist, and similar are the only ones that I find myself visiting, just because they are among the few hundreds that still load with server-side generated HTML and the UI is fairly minimal [3].

It doesn't helps much that the same front-end programmers that helped increase the bloat in today's web are the same group of programmers building "modern" desktop software, looking at you Electron. They may call it convenient and productive all they want, but to me —and many others— it just means they are lazy and cheap. Not long ago I read an article from the author of TablePlus [4] explaining how he decided to build his app using native libraries even weighing the pros-and-cons of other GUI frameworks, including Electron, coming to the conclusion that slowing development time was worthy if the resulting product was performant.

Because at the end who is paying the bills?

• A customer that enjoys a fast and resource efficient desktop experience?

• Or the front-end programmer who's happy for using JavaScript to develop the app?

Think about it.

PS: almost 100% [5] :-)

[1] https://github.com/cixtor/rssfeed

[2] https://reederapp.com/

[3] https://thenextweb.com/dd/2017/06/29/why-are-some-of-the-ugl...

[4] https://tableplus.io

[5] https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=...

Re: Bloated

#6
The sad thing is that even if 100% of the people with personal websites would do the same, it probably wouldn't change much. And yeah, I'm firmly in the "this old computer should definitely render web pages if it's good enough to run video games" camp and if the people working on current browsers argue that it's complicated, with all the scrolling and JS and stuff.. Well good riddance, web of 2018 - it was absolutely fine in 2008.

Re: Bloated

#7
Great initiative. Site loads fast, text is readable, adblocker has nothing to block - what more could you want from website? You might want to look into optimizing SVG files, as Inkscape by default leaves a lot of unnecessary metadata.

Re: Bloated

#8
This feels like the trillionth time I read a rant like this, but that doesn't make it less true or important.

I really wonder from time to time if it's just me, having become and old grumpy "get off my lawn" grandpa unable to cope with the world keeping turning and moving forward.

"You can't write everything from scratch every time"

"That's just how it's done today"

"Cmon, people aren't running IE5 on a pentium 2 anymore"

"SPAs are so much better UX. Everything should be an SPA!"

heavy breathing with red face

It's funny how this guy is complaining about a 7 year old laptop; any non-flagship mobile device from 4 years ago is almost unusable on the web.

Re: Bloated

#9
post #2

I for one absolutely agree with you that the web has gotten too bloated, especially news websites, and I salute your initiative for "debloating" your blog. This is a path that more of us should follow. I think Google's AMP project is a step in the right direction, but it seems to me that it's not adopted enough.

Curious as to why you think AMP is a step to the right direction.
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