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Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Post by waddlesplash »

stonogo wrote: post #109
sosborn wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s just another webkit, fostering the monoculture; Ignoring that Blink and Webkit are feature identical, what negative effects are there with an open source rendering engine monoculture?

It ossifies every layer of the stack below it. Once you have a practical monoculture, user demand effectively cements the entire underlying operating system design to cater to the browser implementation. Fine if you're selling Chromebooks, but fatal for innovation. Once the operating system is encased in amber, only a massive budget can break new ground -- this is why things like Plan 9 from Bell Labs will never take…

> It's why Haiku is importing more and more BSD code instead of pursuing their own paradigms.

We are? Uhh ... not really?

We use FreeBSD's WiFi stack and drivers (same as the other BSDs), and have plans to import some of FreeBSD's work to get linuxdrm/gallium for hardware acceleration. That's it.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Post by ayoisaiah »

shady-lady wrote: post #97
ayoisaiah wrote: post #85

Last time I tried Vivaldi (over a year ago), the browser shortcuts were taking precedence over website shortcuts. I noticed this in Google Sheets and others. I hope that's fixed now Firefox is likely to remain my default browser, but there's a lot to like about Vivaldi.

> Last time I tried Vivaldi (over a year ago), the browser shortcuts were taking precedence over website shortcuts. I noticed this in Google Sheets and others. I hope that's fixed now I feel that's how it should be. OS > Browser > Browser Extension > Website Using some sites(JIRA in particular) in Firefox is painful as they just capture every keypress/combo regardless of whether they need it or not. Yes, it's lazy on…

You're not wrong, but what I meant is that they were conflicts, and the browser's shortcuts took precedence. Like Ctrl+b to bold text and others. Many threads were open on this problem on the Vivaldi forum. I was not used to this with Chrome and Firefox, so it surprised me.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

class4behavior wrote: post #120
ddevault wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until the headline reads "Vivaldi source code released", the browser is irrelevant. They really need to get their act together on this point, there's no excuse for a closed source web browser in 2018.

Did any of you even bother to read the entry behind that link?

Yes. Would you care to point out.exactly what you think I missed?

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Post by thirdsun »

rayascott wrote: post #112
bleeder wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My interpretation of your comment is to literally save a list of URLs (in plaintext or html) This plugin has "Copy all to clipboard" button which does that https://github.com/antonycourtney/tabli

That would be great if I could then open that file using a browser which would then load up those URLs.

Not exactly what you asked for, but for what it's worth Firefox will happily accept and open a list of URLs that you drag and drop from your text file into the browser. I just tried it.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Post by ethelward »

ddevault wrote: post #95
krn wrote: post #47

Sadly, Vivaldi is not an open-source web browser[1]. [1] https://help.vivaldi.com/article/is-vivaldi-open-source/

Until the headline reads "Vivaldi source code released", the browser is irrelevant. They really need to get their act together on this point, there's no excuse for a closed source web browser in 2018.

> there's no excuse for a closed source web browser in 2018.

Unless it is Chrome, or Safari, or Edge, ...

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

ethelward wrote: post #125
ddevault wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until the headline reads "Vivaldi source code released", the browser is irrelevant. They really need to get their act together on this point, there's no excuse for a closed source web browser in 2018.

> there's no excuse for a closed source web browser in 2018. Unless it is Chrome, or Safari, or Edge, ...

Edge and Safari are barely relevant and my argument applies equally to them. Chrome is just a few patches on top of Chromium, but again my argument aplies - no one should be using given that Chromium is basically the same.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Post by whoknowsnobody »

sulami wrote: post #70
nerdponx wrote: post #46

What is Vivaldi's business model?

I've been wondering about this for a while. Especially now that they're actively supplying servers to support sync (which also at least at the time of writing doesn't seem to allow running your own server).

The same as Mozilla, default bookmarks and search engines. The founder, Jon, said that in every interview they ask him, shouldn't be too hard to find.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Post by whoknowsnobody »

er0k wrote: post #99
rayascott wrote: post #87

Can any browser out there, Vivaldi or otherwise, take the tabs of a window and save the corresponding list of URLs so I can reopen that window of tabs at a later date? That’s one essential feature I want from a browser, I’ve grown to desire more over the years, but for some strange reason, no browser I’ve seen out there allows you to treat sets of URLs as such.

in Vivaldi: File > Save Open Tabs as Session

And it will be saved in a directory named `Sessions` inside your profile directory. You can then copy this file and use in another Vivaldi instance.

Re: Vivaldi 2.0 – includes sync, resizable tab tiling, floating web panels and more

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Post by whoknowsnobody »

ayoisaiah wrote: post #122
shady-lady wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Last time I tried Vivaldi (over a year ago), the browser shortcuts were taking precedence over website shortcuts. I noticed this in Google Sheets and others. I hope that's fixed now I feel that's how it should be. OS > Browser > Browser Extension > Website Using some sites(JIRA in particular) in Firefox is painful as they just capture every keypress/combo regardless of whether they need it or not. Yes, it's lazy on…

You're not wrong, but what I meant is that they were conflicts, and the browser's shortcuts took precedence. Like Ctrl+b to bold text and others. Many threads were open on this problem on the Vivaldi forum. I was not used to this with Chrome and Firefox, so it surprised me.

It's fixed now, Vivaldi behaves like the others with keyboard shortcuts.
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