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Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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https://adfreetime.com does this, as well as proxying location checking (like MLB's video streaming).

Cool! Thanks for sharing this. Out of curiosity, do you have any idea how they prevent the scenario I outlined (e.g. metadata, traffic analysis)?

>$1.99 US a month, less than a cup of coffee!

At that price, I doubt they do.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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My Pi-hole with updated block lists (blocking trackers as well as ads) sits at around 87.7% requests blocked, which is absolutely mind-blowingly ridiculous. I see absolutely no negative effects browsing like this. Everything I've come across still works fine. Even sites that detect uBlock Origin and tell me to disable it, will work with that disabled and Pi-hole still blocking the ads instead. I heavily believe we sh…

> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators As do I. There's two significant issues I have supporting most sites: 1. They provide only a subscription that is comparable cost to an old-media full subscription. Like most people in the Internet age I have a small number of main sources that I visit daily, and a much larger secondary tier where I may average one or two stories a week. Or they're the sites linked…

The usual way people have tried to solve the microtransactions problem is through aggregation/centralization. eg, everyone who wants to gives HN $K/mo, and then HN distributes that money proportionally to sites clicked.

Unfortunately, I think the incentives are too loose. Users aren't obligated in any way to pay for links; as usual, humans aren't charitable enough to actually sustain public goods voluntarily. Secondly, the aggregator site isn't under strong incentives to pass on revenues (which applies equally to ads).

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#343
uBlock Origin in medium mode, to block 3rd party scripts and frames, is much more effective, its not depending on any lists.

I'd also neved point to Cloudflare resolver 1.1.1.1, and to Google's too. Use your VPN's dns or Quad9 9.9.9.9

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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I just want to pay a monthly "digital content fee" to some service and have that money be fairly distributed to all the digital services I use: websites, music, video, tools, etc. Is anyone working on a system like that?

Personally, I don’t want to pay anything for content. Look at cable tv. It got so bad there is a cord cutting movement. The same will happen again in another form.

You do not want to pay?

For TV, I'm happy to pay for renting from google or a monthly fee to Netflix. In return I never need to go to the cinema, I watch films at the time that works for me, and no ads!

Yeah, I'd be happy to pay for quality video, podcast, and articles, but not 5$ to each site I want to read from.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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post #240

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I just want to pay a monthly "digital content fee" to some service and have that money be fairly distributed to all the digital services I use: websites, music, video, tools, etc. Is anyone working on a system like that?

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the Brave browser, which operates exactly on the model you describe: https://brave.com/

That's really cool. I had no idea Brave did that, and thought it was just another Chromium spin-off.

Unfortunately I'm unwilling to change browser for this, and would rather see it as an addon or local software install so it works on the user's choice of browser, but it's a very good idea.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Personally, I don’t want to pay anything for content. Look at cable tv. It got so bad there is a cord cutting movement. The same will happen again in another form.

I'm confused. You want people to write all content for free? Whilst that works for a lot of people who do it in their spare time, it does restrict anyone looking to write professionally from contributing.

Not parent, but I would absolutely _demand_ people to write all content for free.

I refuse to pay a single cent for anything that is even remotely accessible on the Internet and does not result in a physical tangible good being delivered to me, of which I pay $15/mo as acceptable rate-limited mobile LTE bandwidth -- my only communication related recurring cost.

There are several reasons at play here:

- Content quality is not correlated with amount an author is "compensated". In fact quality is almost universally _inversely_ correlated with profitability. Once dollars are attached, out of the woodwork comes a bunch of charlatans peddling useless shit that will not only give you no useful advantage in seeking external information but will actively degrade your life either through dubious advice that will trash your health, finances, legal status, cognitive & mental state, relationships, you name it, or through malevolent action such as selling your privacy or methodical persuasion in you undertaking self-defeating behaviors by hijacking basic human emotional reactions.

- Time has shown repeatedly that volunteers are the entire backbone of quality information sources. I come to HN to have some chance of experts congregating for an actual discussion on certain topics. QA forums, encyclopedias, topic-specific discussion forums, educational materials, news aggregation, scientific research, _all_ is higher quality in volunteer communities before it's essentially leeched for profit by journals, website owners, policy spinmasters, malvertising business, and venture capital.

- "Writing professionally" is not a useful skill in itself, no matter the fantasy colleges want to dream up by funneling the otherwise academically unfit into a program that will lead to a degree thus allowing them to join in on the unnecessary inflationary credentialization of _remedial_ skills. Linguistic mastery is a necessary but not sufficient requirement for creating useful information, you first need a deep understanding of the material you wish to cover. I'd much rather read barely comprehensible jargon from a deranged genius than an eloquent soliloquy by some shill with no idea of what he's talking about other than a general idea that permuting a dictionary in the right magical incantation will summon a paycheck at the end of the week. If you have skills that allowed you to amass wisdom in a field to the point that it would benefit someone else, there are _much_ more efficient and useful means to acquire income and instead use "writing" as a tool for social meaning and development either through reciprocity, self-selection, altruism, whatever.

- The greatest costs are borne not in writing but in deciphering meaning. The combined readership burden of filtering out the wheat from the chaff will _always_ exceed the cost of an author even doing "important" research. This is the crucial point of it all, with some smart people realizing that if information has any value besides propaganda it's due to careful curation, summarizing, and tailoring to an individual's goals and instantaneous state-of-mind, while even smarter people realizing that this will _never_ scale as a business model. Even "clever" workarounds to this problem by infiltrating an individual's web-of-trust in recommendations always end up backfiring. After decades of this scheme being retried and rehashed, I now am completely confident in ignoring whatever bullshit du jour comes out of the mouths of family and friends, and am even running up against the problem of being contrarian against my own internal thoughts.

- Even if against all the odds that you paid someone to get valuable information in the long run you'll regret it. Give an inch, they take a mile. Everyone who is dependent on a paycheck dreams of eventually retiring, and quickly to boot once the actuaries remind them of the future. Once you paid someone for content, you just anchored the negotiations of tomorrow and crystallized the form of how protection money must be paid. "Oh I know you paid back then, but life isn't getting any cheaper and I'd like to get to the beach someday without working so I'm really sorry but I _need_ to add some 'features' that will juice my revenue!" Negotiating with terrorists is not a strategy to get to a stable equilibrium in an iterated game -- the cat has been let out of the bag and it's never going back in. Wake up.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#347

Someone on here recently recommended uMatrix for this purpose and I find that a nice trade-off between usability and request blocking. It's an extension but given it's less opaque than a generic ad-blocker I feel more in control and that it's less likely to go 'rogue' like adblockers do.

Longtime uMatrix user here. The most frustrating thing about UM (which is the same problem I had with NoScript back in the day) is that some scripts call other scripts. So, particularly when I'm trying to play an embedded video served by another site served through a CDN, the process for getting the damn video to play is something like: Click video -> Open uMatrix -> whitelist some scripts -> reload -> whitelist more…

Use youtube-dl instead? It's win-win: you don't have to compromise your browser's security, and you get a permanent copy of the video that you can watch whenever you like and that the CDN can't comply with takedown requests on or otherwise maliciously bitrot.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#348
post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just want to pay a monthly "digital content fee" to some service and have that money be fairly distributed to all the digital services I use: websites, music, video, tools, etc. Is anyone working on a system like that?

Personally, I don’t want to pay anything for content. Look at cable tv. It got so bad there is a cord cutting movement. The same will happen again in another form.

For any content? Have you never bought a book, or paid to see a movie. Paid content is not bad in and of itself.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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> Do you use a popular browser extension? How confident are you that the creator wouldn’t accept a $10k offer to hand it over only to have it then go rogue on you? What makes the Pi-Hole organization any more trustworthy? (and the software stack it all depends on) Personally, I'm inclined to trust them both and hope that the long arm of the GDPR will be effective. Optimistic, I know.

Considering that over 20% of https://pi-hole.net is blocked as malicious ads by my browser, I don't really understand why you would trust them to block not only the crap across the wider internet but even against their own self-interest.

Remember the warning signs of craziness with NoScript? It's like you guys never learn!

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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I use a /etc/hosts-based ( https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts ) approach to add blocking across my machines, but I have found some sites (fansided.com) comes to mind, which detect that I'm blocking and won't let me read them. How easy is it to get around this with the pi-hole?

Very easy. You can pause it for 10s, 30s, 5mins, or a custom timeframe via the dashboard, or whitelist domains/subdomains as well. You basically do everything via a very slick dashboard running locally on its IP.

Very cool...thanks. I'll give it a serious look.
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