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Apollo 11 and Other Screw-Ups

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Re: Apollo 11 and Other Screw-Ups

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See also Mindell, David A. Digital Apollo. MIT Press 2011

I second your recommendation of Digital Apollo - an excellent book.

I also rate How Apollo Flew to the Moon by David Woods (Springer Praxis, 2011) very highly. The cover is kind of cheesy but its full of the kind of technical detail that is hard to find without reading through old NASA docs.

Re: Apollo 11 and Other Screw-Ups

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The most curious screw ups to me are the badly photoshopped images to get rid of UFO activity. Just look at the testimony by former NASA workers who independently heard the full transcript regarding Apollo team's sightings of extra terrestrial vehicles monitoring them.

If you are talking about Buzz Aldrin et. all, no, no Astronaut on record ever confirmed seeing extra terrestrial vehicles "monitoring" them. [1][2][3][4][5]

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20110721050308/http://astrobiolo...

[2] https://sservi.nasa.gov/?question=apollo-11-ufo-sighting

[3] https://www.skeptical-science.com/skeptic-news/did-buzz-aldr...

[4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/04/10...

[5] https://www.csicop.org/si/show/ufos_and_aliens_in_space

Re: Apollo 11 and Other Screw-Ups

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The most curious screw ups to me are the badly photoshopped images to get rid of UFO activity. Just look at the testimony by former NASA workers who independently heard the full transcript regarding Apollo team's sightings of extra terrestrial vehicles monitoring them.

If you are talking about Buzz Aldrin et. all, no, no Astronaut on record ever confirmed seeing extra terrestrial vehicles "monitoring" them. [1][2][3][4][5] [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20110721050308/http://astrobiolo... [2] https://sservi.nasa.gov/?question=apollo-11-ufo-sighting [3] https://www.skeptical-science.com/skeptic-news/did-buzz-aldr... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/04/10..…

no not Buzz but he certainly did do a little more than hint there's something going on but he can't say it for obvious reasons.

If you look at NASA streams they 'randomly' experience technical issues but it's widely observed that this typically happens when a UFO is detected.

there's so much we don't know and are not being told but what is clear is this-extra terrestrials possess technology that far exceeds our own and possibly this dimension, and this scares the shit out of superpowers.

It's supported by the fact that there is so much fake UFO with very real ones (ex. US Navy f-18 video) so you can't claim what is real and what isn't.

Also this happened to USSR with their trip to the Phobos moon when the satellite all of sudden disappeared and there's captured photos showing what appears to be cylindrical objects. We can't send satellites there because they keep disappearing.

The real theory as to why we haven't been back on the moon is because the extra terrestrials that are supposedly mining on the moon will not allow weaponization of space. I know this is shocking but it's the most logical conclusion following the various "technical difficulties" during the live coverage of the moon landing.

20 years ago nobody listened to the theory that the government is snooping on everyone because it was too out there.

We have multiple witness accounts from credible backgrounds being demonized and outcasted as mentally ill.

This is the greatest trick they pull. I mean look around, what has changed after Snowden? Absolutely nothing because there's fuck all we can do about it when everybody is focused on the carrot on the end of the stick.

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are talking about Buzz Aldrin et. all, no, no Astronaut on record ever confirmed seeing extra terrestrial vehicles "monitoring" them. [1][2][3][4][5] [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20110721050308/http://astrobiolo... [2] https://sservi.nasa.gov/?question=apollo-11-ufo-sighting [3] https://www.skeptical-science.com/skeptic-news/did-buzz-aldr... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/04/10..…

no not Buzz but he certainly did do a little more than hint there's something going on but he can't say it for obvious reasons. If you look at NASA streams they 'randomly' experience technical issues but it's widely observed that this typically happens when a UFO is detected. there's so much we don't know and are not being told but what is clear is this-extra terrestrials possess technology that far exceeds our own a…

Seek help.

Re: Apollo 11 and Other Screw-Ups

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

no not Buzz but he certainly did do a little more than hint there's something going on but he can't say it for obvious reasons. If you look at NASA streams they 'randomly' experience technical issues but it's widely observed that this typically happens when a UFO is detected. there's so much we don't know and are not being told but what is clear is this-extra terrestrials possess technology that far exceeds our own a…

Seek help.

tell these guys that too: https://www.netflix.com/ca/title/80171742

Re: Apollo 11 and Other Screw-Ups

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The most curious screw ups to me are the badly photoshopped images to get rid of UFO activity. Just look at the testimony by former NASA workers who independently heard the full transcript regarding Apollo team's sightings of extra terrestrial vehicles monitoring them.

Do you have any links for that? I would love to learn more.

https://www.netflix.com/ca/title/80171742

Re: Apollo 11 and Other Screw-Ups

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are talking about Buzz Aldrin et. all, no, no Astronaut on record ever confirmed seeing extra terrestrial vehicles "monitoring" them. [1][2][3][4][5] [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20110721050308/http://astrobiolo... [2] https://sservi.nasa.gov/?question=apollo-11-ufo-sighting [3] https://www.skeptical-science.com/skeptic-news/did-buzz-aldr... [4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/04/10..…

no not Buzz but he certainly did do a little more than hint there's something going on but he can't say it for obvious reasons. If you look at NASA streams they 'randomly' experience technical issues but it's widely observed that this typically happens when a UFO is detected. there's so much we don't know and are not being told but what is clear is this-extra terrestrials possess technology that far exceeds our own a…

Okay, I'll take a bite

> no not Buzz but he certainly did do a little more than hint there's something going on but he can't say it for obvious reasons.

He did not. If you mean his infamous quote about the monolith orbiting Phobos, he explicitly said it was a natural occurrence:

  There’s a monolith, a very unusual structure on this
  little potato-shaped object that goes around Mars once
  in every seven hours. They’re going to say,
  “Who put that there? Who put that there?”
  Well, the universe put it there.
  If you choose, God put it there.
As per the transcripts, Aldrin is 99.9% sure the "anomaly" was a panel floating around from the Apollo mission [2]

> there's so much we don't know and are not being told but what is clear is this-extra terrestrials possess technology that far exceeds our own and possibly this dimension, and this scares the shit out of superpowers.

Not understanding, nor possessing knowledge does NOT, in any way, give you a free pass to jump to conclusions… Missing information does not equate to it was aliens, that's just poor judgment and bad science.

> It's supported by the fact that there is so much fake UFO with very real ones (ex. US Navy f-18 video) so you can't claim what is real and what isn't.

What is supported? We don't know anything but it's extra terrestrial because of what? The incident described by you [3] concludes what exactly? Aliens? Seriously?

> Also this happened to USSR with their trip to the Phobos moon when the satellite all of sudden disappeared and there's captured photos showing what appears to be cylindrical objects. We can't send satellites there because they keep disappearing.

We can't even get a constant stream via satellite TV without interference.

> The real theory as to why we haven't been back on the moon is because the extra terrestrials that are supposedly mining on the moon will not allow weaponization of space. I know this is shocking but it's the most logical conclusion following the various "technical difficulties" during the live coverage of the moon landing.

Logical, how?

> We have multiple witness accounts from credible backgrounds being demonized and outcasted as mentally ill.

We have multiple accounts of credible people of nonsense, we call that anecdotal evidence.

> This is the greatest trick they pull. I mean look around, what has changed after Snowden? Absolutely nothing because there's fuck all we can do about it when everybody is focused on the carrot on the end of the stick.

Sure, pull in a totally unrelated conspiracy that turned out to be true and say "See, they were right, therefore I must be"

I am not even sure why I am responding, none of this is even worth of a reply, all I hope is that someone, getting pulled into this nonsense takes a second look and judges more sceptically, instead of jumping to "We don't understand, it must be aliens and there is an elite that wants to BLAHBLAHBLAH"

Also, the "scripture" to the OP I am responding to is the "documentary" from ufologist Steven M. Greer, recently featured on Netflix called "Unacknowledged". I'd advise anyone who has seen the movie to look at this review[4], or watch it with a good sense of humor.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDIXvpjnRws

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubMJLO4xjMs

[3] https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/12/19/ufo-departme...

[4] https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/unacknowledged-netflix-...

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no not Buzz but he certainly did do a little more than hint there's something going on but he can't say it for obvious reasons. If you look at NASA streams they 'randomly' experience technical issues but it's widely observed that this typically happens when a UFO is detected. there's so much we don't know and are not being told but what is clear is this-extra terrestrials possess technology that far exceeds our own a…

Okay, I'll take a bite > no not Buzz but he certainly did do a little more than hint there's something going on but he can't say it for obvious reasons. He did not. If you mean his infamous quote about the monolith orbiting Phobos, he explicitly said it was a natural occurrence: There’s a monolith, a very unusual structure on this little potato-shaped object that goes around Mars once in every seven hours. They’re go…

It would be easier to take this article seriously if:

1) The author didn’t misspell the names of the people he’s talking about. It’s George Filer. (“Filir”? Really?) Also, Ed Snowden, not “Snowdon.”

2) The author didn’t denigrate witnesses of significant stature who would be trusted as impeccable sources if they offered opinions on something other than UFOs (multiple NASA astronauts, highly placed intelligence officials, former heads of state, NATO commanders…you know, people who just might possibly know a tad more about the subject than the author)

3) The author knew the full history Carl Sagan, who concluded in his seminal book with the Russian scientist Shklovskii that Earth is likely to have been visited by space faring civilizations at least “every 10,000 years.” And this was decades before we knew earthlike planets pervade the universe.

Then again, nobody would come to skeptic.com expecting anything but blind skepticism toward subjects that are already ruled off-limits by professional pseudoskeptics like Michael Shermer.

Re: Apollo 11 and Other Screw-Ups

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, I'll take a bite > no not Buzz but he certainly did do a little more than hint there's something going on but he can't say it for obvious reasons. He did not. If you mean his infamous quote about the monolith orbiting Phobos, he explicitly said it was a natural occurrence: There’s a monolith, a very unusual structure on this little potato-shaped object that goes around Mars once in every seven hours. They’re go…

It would be easier to take this article seriously if: 1) The author didn’t misspell the names of the people he’s talking about. It’s George Filer. (“Filir”? Really?) Also, Ed Snowden, not “Snowdon.” 2) The author didn’t denigrate witnesses of significant stature who would be trusted as impeccable sources if they offered opinions on something other than UFOs (multiple NASA astronauts, highly placed intelligence offici…

Sure, copy the criticism of the comments and repost 'em here (Hah, he misspelled a name, therefore I am right, and he is wrong), and "impeccable sources"? Anecdotal is still anecdotal. 3. Bullshit and 4. Personal attack, classy

Also, please address my points, instead of bashing exactly one of my mentioned source

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