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Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by promofaux »

badbug wrote: post #303
promofaux wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As commented below, we don't actually maintain any of the lists, so that wasn't us you spoke to! You can configure the lists that you use to suit your needs. You can also whitelist any domains that you need. It's up to you what you ultimately block!

Yes, it was. In fact, I think it was you personally, lol.

Hmmm, not sure I recall. Mind linking back to the conversation? Point is, we don't choose what domains are blocked or not, so there is nothing we can do except ship with a default whitelist. But we're not going to do that either, if we were to start doing that... what's to say we wouldn't whitelist something more nefarious.

It's safest for us, and our reputation, to stay out of the finer points of the actual blocked/not domains and instead defer to individual list maintainers who make that their business.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by mianos »

windexh8er wrote: post #26

I'm surprised this is the top slot right now. Troy, generally, puts out interesting info on security related news however this feels a bit minimal. Since the project has been around a number of years now, and it's not relegated to only a RPi I would have expected him to delve into things a bit more. Pi-hole will also break things. I think the common one I always heard from users on my network at home were that Google…

The setup script runs perfectly on Ubuntu in an lxd container as well.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by woolvalley »

jjnoakes wrote: post #153

I hate ads as much as the next guy. This cat-and-mouse game has been going on for as long as I can remember. But I have to wonder why the ad networks don't require content creators to place some "ad libraries" into the web servers or CMS systems directly, so that the ads are served exactly the same way as the content (same domain, same pages, etc). That's my nightmare scenario. I figured it would have happened everyw…

ML that inspects content for ad-like behavior. Inspecting content of files or code and see if they match known adware, like an antivirus.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by jrace »

paulcole wrote: post #68
tomrod wrote: post #2

This is excessive. Amazingly so. I don't mind an ad or two. I don't want you siphoning my network and computational resources without compensation.

You are being compensated. You can visit their website and read their content. Feel you're not being compensated enough ? Stop visiting that site.

You are being compensated...but you are not being informed for what.

As an example, lets say you borrow my truck. You compensate me for the use of my truck to move some boxes in town.

But then you use my truck to tow a trailer across the country. That is more wear and tear on the vehicle.

And then you take my personal information that is on my vehicle registration with my home address and sell that to an ad company.

Finally you return my truck with all sorts of junk that was collected while the truck was being used.

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Post by michaelmrose »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #76
isserson wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that case, these news businesses should not be publishing content on the World Wide Web. Users pay for devices, electricity, and monthly network connection, These publishers seem to be stuck in the last epoch. A website is not a finished product like a book or newspaper, it is publicly-accessible data. Users can scrape, restyle, delete, and add content _at will_ whenever they choose to download this content. So th…

So what's the impetus for the news business to be available online? If the world wide web should be a free love utopia of data slurping why would these agencies, who have been built on the assumption that the creation and presentation of their data has an inherent worth? How do they get remunerated for their efforts? Or do they just never try to take advantage of this new epoch and die off, leaving us with a billion…

I see nothing wrong with them charging money for their work they just can't depend on being able to exercise absolute control over the presentation because instead of being dumb data to be displayed on a remote device its code to be run on the end users device.

You can't separate all the interesting aspects of this distinction and ignore the ones you don't like.

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Post by egeozcan »

tcmb wrote: post #293
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators As do I. There's two significant issues I have supporting most sites: 1. They provide only a subscription that is comparable cost to an old-media full subscription. Like most people in the Internet age I have a small number of main sources that I visit daily, and a much larger secondary tier where I may average one or two stories a week. Or they're the sites linked…

I completely agree with your assessment of the problem. I'm using https://blendle.com , which offers a wide variety of publications with payment per article (usually something around 0.70 EUR, with the odd 1.99 EUR for articles from DER SPIEGEL). They also have a daily mix of manually curated content and content based on the articles I purchased in the past, which works really well. I'm afraid it's only available in…

I also recommend blendle. It has the most reasonable payment system.

btw, I've purchased a few articles from Der Spiegel but they were around 0,75€.

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Post by badbug »

promofaux wrote: post #311
badbug wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it was. In fact, I think it was you personally, lol.

Hmmm, not sure I recall. Mind linking back to the conversation? Point is, we don't choose what domains are blocked or not, so there is nothing we can do except ship with a default whitelist. But we're not going to do that either, if we were to start doing that... what's to say we wouldn't whitelist something more nefarious. It's safest for us, and our reputation, to stay out of the finer points of the actual blocked/…

Can't find it, it may have been on chat.

But I did find a very similar request here with a work around: https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/49ckht/feature_requ...

So I understand you don't control the lists, but you do control the oobe and it seems like it might not be working for some people.

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Post by epicalex »

ansible wrote: post #306
michaelmrose wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems that these fees would be trivially avoidable by having one monthly transaction to the aggregator and one monthly transaction

Sort of like Patreon. Except it would work a bit differently. Say I approve N number of sites (NY Times, WaPo, EE Times, etc.) They each get paid out of a monthly fund based on how much I visit each of them.

Wouldn't that in itself involve tracking your behaviour on the web, though, which is what commenters on this thread started off saying they disliked?
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