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Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by noreddit323 »

slacka wrote: post #131
ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #81

My Pi-hole with updated block lists (blocking trackers as well as ads) sits at around 87.7% requests blocked, which is absolutely mind-blowingly ridiculous. I see absolutely no negative effects browsing like this. Everything I've come across still works fine. Even sites that detect uBlock Origin and tell me to disable it, will work with that disabled and Pi-hole still blocking the ads instead. I heavily believe we sh…

> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators Agreed. Do you disable your pi-hole on sites like Reddit? They vet their ads so not have any of the malicious attributes that you described. All the larger newspagers like WaPo and NYT are also good about this too. I'm all for blocking intrusive or malicious ads. But quality content depends on ad revenue. The author dedicated an entire paragraph on donating to the…

Reddit is work friendly 4chan. That is, (mostly) not quality content.

I stick to a search engine rather than browsing Reddit directly. If what I'm looking for comes up in a relevant Reddit thread, huzzah.

I get the contemporary meme is "Agree with great-great-grandpas economics of 'survival of the fittest'." But I feel little obligation to pander to it everywhere it exists.

Maybe I'm an odd bird, having grown up in the remote wilderness in the 80s, no TV, growing food and hunting/fishing, and only using money for things like clothing and basic services (water/electricity/phone).

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by dwater »

cptskippy wrote: post #133
ryandrake wrote: post #47

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It’s essentially dnsmasq which can be run directly on your wireless router if you are using custom firmware. No separate hw needed, no need to horse around with dockers or containers or any of that stuff. I’d guess a lot of people are already running dnsmasq for other purposes, so adding the blocklist and periodically updating it should be trivial.

I was doing this using Tomato and it introduced serious stability issues in the two routers (both Asus) I tried it on. Pi-Hole is a drop in replacement to an existing network setup that doesn't require hacking your router to install a custom firmware. It will also persist router upgrades. My only gripe with Pi-Hole, which isn't their fault really, is that power losses can quickly corrupt the Raspberry Pi's SD Card. I…

I got cheap SSDs in cheap USB cases for my 2 Pis after getting annoyed with SD corruption. SSD prices have dropped recently after being flat for a long time. If you are really cheap the cases often go for $1 or free after rebate at newegg.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by woolvalley »

SippinLean wrote: post #110
paulcole wrote: post #66

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> some websites refusing to function if ads are blocked Don't visit those sites! They want your eyes and/or your money (if a subscription is an option) and you don't want to give it to them. Just stop going there! Edit: I don’t understand the downvotes. Sites aren’t obligated to give you something for nothing. Why does it feel like that’s the default view here?

but there are other people that live in or visit my home. Maybe they want to visit those sites. I'd love a pi-hole like solution that was as easy to temporarily disable as a browser extension.

That is why I don't use pi-hole myself.

I wish it would redirect to a different local webpage that allows you to click a button to temporarily unblock the domain for your ip, like the ublock blocked webpage that pops up sometimes:

https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1424503

If it gets abused, then you can turn it off as an option.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by xfitm3 »

lifeformed wrote: post #228
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #166

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> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators As do I. There's two significant issues I have supporting most sites: 1. They provide only a subscription that is comparable cost to an old-media full subscription. Like most people in the Internet age I have a small number of main sources that I visit daily, and a much larger secondary tier where I may average one or two stories a week. Or they're the sites linked…

I just want to pay a monthly "digital content fee" to some service and have that money be fairly distributed to all the digital services I use: websites, music, video, tools, etc. Is anyone working on a system like that?

Personally, I don’t want to pay anything for content. Look at cable tv. It got so bad there is a cord cutting movement. The same will happen again in another form.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by 8_hours_ago »

badbug wrote: post #130
andreasvc wrote: post #83

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Yup, that's a downside. The advantage is that it's much simpler and will also work when you're not on your home network.

How do I edit the hosts file on my iPhone?

I use AdBlock https://www.adblockios.com on iOS which runs a local DNS server that can blackhole domains. It doesn't work well on very large host files so I gave up trying to import https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts, but it does work well for smaller lists.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by saidajigumi »

lifeformed wrote: post #228
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #166

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> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators As do I. There's two significant issues I have supporting most sites: 1. They provide only a subscription that is comparable cost to an old-media full subscription. Like most people in the Internet age I have a small number of main sources that I visit daily, and a much larger secondary tier where I may average one or two stories a week. Or they're the sites linked…

I just want to pay a monthly "digital content fee" to some service and have that money be fairly distributed to all the digital services I use: websites, music, video, tools, etc. Is anyone working on a system like that?

People have been thinking seriously about micropayments for many decades now[1]. No one's managed to nail a complete concept and/or an execution that's really worth mentioning, except perhaps as historical interest. tl;dr: it's an enormously tough problem space to get right.

[1] "Every document can contain a royalty mechanism at any desired degree of granularity to ensure payment on any portion accessed, including virtual copies ("transclusions") of all or part of the document." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by lifeisstillgood »

lifeformed wrote: post #228
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #166

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> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators As do I. There's two significant issues I have supporting most sites: 1. They provide only a subscription that is comparable cost to an old-media full subscription. Like most people in the Internet age I have a small number of main sources that I visit daily, and a much larger secondary tier where I may average one or two stories a week. Or they're the sites linked…

I just want to pay a monthly "digital content fee" to some service and have that money be fairly distributed to all the digital services I use: websites, music, video, tools, etc. Is anyone working on a system like that?

So, just imagining this could be Patreon's next service - sign up for X dollars a month for a VIP pass - but the issue suddenly becomes they need to oauth against patreon, and add in a new tier of subscriber .. it's doable but slow

I kind of like tying this into U2F. I think FIDO and the like will rollout as oauth has done - slowly but becoming the "default" way.

If as part of the initial sign up process, you authenticate your public key on site A, as being someone who can have a share of your monthly subscription... then we have built a distributed subscription service ...

i think

I like the idea

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by woolvalley »

txcwpalpha wrote: post #188
TheBeardKing wrote: post #175

Don't buy a raspberry pi just for this, chances are you have some old windows machine you can slap Ubuntu server on and set it up easily. That's what I did and I have very little Linux experience. My favorite thing about it is ad-blocking in mobile apps. I tried to use it with OpenVPN on my android phone for ad-blocking when I'm on cellular data, but the speed it was unbearable. I'm not sure if it was my crappy route…

>Don't buy a raspberry pi just for this, chances are you have some old windows machine you can slap Ubuntu server on and set it up easily. That's what I did and I have very little Linux experience. But this would require having a full-blown PC running 24/7 and increasing your electricity costs by at least a few bucks a month. It would be much wiser to buy a $10 Pi Zero W and put Pi-Hole on it.

I agree. The rpi will pay for itself in electricity cost savings fairly quickly.

Also a reason to use a dedicated NAS appliance. Instead of the 60W minimum idle that desktops have, your at 1-10W idle with rpi zero and NAS appliances.

Small laptops might have a more efficient idle although, so YMMV.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by woolvalley »

FroshKiller wrote: post #116
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #30

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I'm amazed that something that (to me) as simple as an ad and analytics proxy running on the website domain isn't more of a thing yet. That will already circumvent a lot of ad blockers. Well initially anyway, the ones based on blocklists / patterns will probably be updated quickly.

You really think anyone wants to maintain something like that, let alone subsidize the advertisers' bandwidth costs?

If it's their main source of income, they would. Maybe advertisers could offer better rates since you'd be reducing their costs.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

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Post by morley »

lifeformed wrote: post #228
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #166

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> I heavily believe we should be supporting creators As do I. There's two significant issues I have supporting most sites: 1. They provide only a subscription that is comparable cost to an old-media full subscription. Like most people in the Internet age I have a small number of main sources that I visit daily, and a much larger secondary tier where I may average one or two stories a week. Or they're the sites linked…

I just want to pay a monthly "digital content fee" to some service and have that money be fairly distributed to all the digital services I use: websites, music, video, tools, etc. Is anyone working on a system like that?

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the Brave browser, which operates exactly on the model you describe:

https://brave.com/

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