How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Companies

Every time you see a news post about a tech company "partnering" with a Chinese company, you should be thinking they were forced to do that. This has been going on for many years, but it became much more of a "rule" in China since a couple of years ago. It's when most of the large American tech companies started announcing "joint ventures" with Chinese firms almost in unison.

However, tech companies seem to be more than happy to give 50%+ of their business in China away, as well as 100% of the tech IP that will be stolen once the partnership happens. And then they whine about how restrictive the GDPR or a similar law in the US would be.

Re: How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Companies

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Post by nerdkid93 » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 3:19 PM UTC

mtgx wrote: post #4

infinity0 wrote: post #2

Anyone got the text from behind the paywall?

https://archive.fo/q3bG5

Thank you!

Re: How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Companies

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Post by endianswap » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 3:23 PM UTC

mtgx wrote: post #6

Every time you see a news post about a tech company "partnering" with a Chinese company, you should be thinking they were forced to do that. This has been going on for many years, but it became much more of a "rule" in China since a couple of years ago. It's when most of the large American tech companies started announcing "joint ventures" with Chinese firms almost in unison. However, tech companies seem to be more t…

What does GDPR have to do with this?

Re: How China Systematically Pries Technology from U.S. Companies

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Post by diego_moita » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 3:26 PM UTC

And so what???

The US pried the textile and locomotives industries from the UK, check the history of Samuel Slater[1]. Same happened for Japan under Meiji restoration. India and Brazil do the same for pharmaceutical patents, because they're too poor to afford paying them.

Stealing IP will happen, no matter what treaties and governments try to do. For poor countries it is a path they just don't have the luxury of giving up.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater

Edit: over-patriotic Americans seem to think this is just about them and call my argument whataboutism. It isn't both. I am stressing the fact that protectionism and stealing IP is a path almost every industrialized nation took. Even the UK did protectionism against India textiles to help their beginning textile industry.

The industrialized countries are trying to close the gates they used to get into their rich garden. My point is that right or wrong, moral or not, it simply won't work.

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Post by friedman23 » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 3:29 PM UTC

Whataboutism.

edit: If someone is using whataboutism (as the person I'm responding to is) there is no real argument to respond to.

Any modern day atrocity can be justified by saying that it was done in the past by a different nation. Saying that the US had done something in the past to justify a different countries' present day actions is intellectually lazy and dishonest and is meant to shut down discussion. I was just not trying to waste my time typing this entire statement out but apparently some of you don't understand why `whatabout x` isn't a real argument.