GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by mbakke » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 1:37 PM UTC

GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released
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Re: GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by rhabarba » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:02 PM UTC

> The GNU Shepherd is developed jointly with the GNU Guix project

Wasn't it made for the hurd?

Re: GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by jonathanstrange » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:06 PM UTC

Interesting,after all this criticism of systemd.

This makes me wonder about the GuixSD distribution. Is this distro ready for prime-time. Suppose I switched from Linux Mint to GuixSD, what would be the advantages and disadvantages?

I like Lisp and program in Racket, so Guile wouldn't be far from that. I just wonder about experiences of other. How much does switching to such a lesser known free distro as the main OS "constrain" you?

Re: GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by rhabarba » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:10 PM UTC

jonathanstrange wrote: post #3

Interesting,after all this criticism of systemd. This makes me wonder about the GuixSD distribution. Is this distro ready for prime-time. Suppose I switched from Linux Mint to GuixSD, what would be the advantages and disadvantages? I like Lisp and program in Racket, so Guile wouldn't be far from that. I just wonder about experiences of other. How much does switching to such a lesser known free distro as the main OS "…

> Suppose I switched from Linux Mint to GuixSD, what would be the advantages and disadvantages?

You'd lose a lot of software choices. Actually, the restriction to "GNU-friendly software" was what made me skip GuixSD so far. I guess that my WiFi wouldn't work.

Re: GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by peatmoss » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:14 PM UTC

Man, I’ve really wanted to take the plunge and dedicate some play time to GUIX for a while now. I feel like between the GUIX package system and Shepherd, they’re creating an authentically new and exciting thing in the universe of Linux distributions.

The fact that they’re using Scheme for so much of it is also pretty cool, as I think this sort of high level systems programming is a great potential use case for showcasing meta programming as well as the unique power of lisps for code-as-data.

Re: GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by CamTin » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:21 PM UTC

rhabarba wrote: post #2

> The GNU Shepherd is developed jointly with the GNU Guix project Wasn't it made for the hurd?

Shepherd should run on Hurd, since Guile does, but it was created as part of the GNU system, which is in reality usually run on the Linux kernel.

Re: GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by serhart » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:27 PM UTC

rhabarba wrote: post #4

jonathanstrange wrote: post #3

Interesting,after all this criticism of systemd. This makes me wonder about the GuixSD distribution. Is this distro ready for prime-time. Suppose I switched from Linux Mint to GuixSD, what would be the advantages and disadvantages? I like Lisp and program in Racket, so Guile wouldn't be far from that. I just wonder about experiences of other. How much does switching to such a lesser known free distro as the main OS "…

> Suppose I switched from Linux Mint to GuixSD, what would be the advantages and disadvantages? You'd lose a lot of software choices. Actually, the restriction to "GNU-friendly software" was what made me skip GuixSD so far. I guess that my WiFi wouldn't work.

Not true. You can write your own packages in the same high level interface. Including the mainline Linux kernel and broadcom drivers. I have GuixSd running on my 2013 MBP

Re: GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by anon789125 » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:39 PM UTC

rhabarba wrote: post #4

jonathanstrange wrote: post #3

Interesting,after all this criticism of systemd. This makes me wonder about the GuixSD distribution. Is this distro ready for prime-time. Suppose I switched from Linux Mint to GuixSD, what would be the advantages and disadvantages? I like Lisp and program in Racket, so Guile wouldn't be far from that. I just wonder about experiences of other. How much does switching to such a lesser known free distro as the main OS "…

> Suppose I switched from Linux Mint to GuixSD, what would be the advantages and disadvantages? You'd lose a lot of software choices. Actually, the restriction to "GNU-friendly software" was what made me skip GuixSD so far. I guess that my WiFi wouldn't work.

When possible, a lazy alternative to packaging non-free software in guile would be using containerization software. I run dropbox in docker under GuixSD and works flawlessly.

Re: GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by rhabarba » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:41 PM UTC

anon789125 wrote: post #8

rhabarba wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Suppose I switched from Linux Mint to GuixSD, what would be the advantages and disadvantages? You'd lose a lot of software choices. Actually, the restriction to "GNU-friendly software" was what made me skip GuixSD so far. I guess that my WiFi wouldn't work.

When possible, a lazy alternative to packaging non-free software in guile would be using containerization software. I run dropbox in docker under GuixSD and works flawlessly.

Can you dockerize drivers?

Re: GNU Shepherd 0.5.0 released

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Post by noobermin » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 2:46 PM UTC

serhart wrote: post #7

rhabarba wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Suppose I switched from Linux Mint to GuixSD, what would be the advantages and disadvantages? You'd lose a lot of software choices. Actually, the restriction to "GNU-friendly software" was what made me skip GuixSD so far. I guess that my WiFi wouldn't work.

Not true. You can write your own packages in the same high level interface. Including the mainline Linux kernel and broadcom drivers. I have GuixSd running on my 2013 MBP

Is there a...non official repository of these somewhere?