I'm not sure Java is worth the effort at this point. If I'm going to have to keep updating every 6 months, I would rather use Go, which seems to have all that Java has to offer + the backing of a huge corporation.
Oracle’s Java 11 trap
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Re: Oracle’s Java 11 trap
#32>You may not: use the Programs for any data processing or any commercial, production, or internal business purposes other than developing, testing, prototyping, and demonstrating your Application; From what I understood, I as a student could still use java 11 from Oracle, as I wouldn't be using it for "production". Is that correct? Or are there other implications that I am missing here?
My professional advice to a newcomer to the industry: stay away from Oracle. It is a blight on the software industry. Oracle is a monopolistic anti-consumer patent troll that treats its employees like shit and whose only business ethic is "make money by any means available".
Re: Oracle’s Java 11 trap
#33The dude owns an island:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-04-13/four-seas...
Stick with free/open source. Vendor lock in is a nightmare. edited for clarity.
Re: Oracle’s Java 11 trap
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as OpenJDK remains open and maintained for a reasonable length of time , I don't mind. Right now it's looking good, but only thanks to Red Hat (et al.) and not Oracle.
When did Red-Hat hired all Oracle developers working on OpenJDK?
Re: Oracle’s Java 11 trap
#35It’s unfortunate Java is turning into modern day COBOL.
Really I think the best thing for Java at this point is getting it out of Oracle's greedy clutches. They are debasing the ecosystem of the language as a whole at this point.
Re: Oracle’s Java 11 trap
#36>You may not: use the Programs for any data processing or any commercial, production, or internal business purposes other than developing, testing, prototyping, and demonstrating your Application; From what I understood, I as a student could still use java 11 from Oracle, as I wouldn't be using it for "production". Is that correct? Or are there other implications that I am missing here?
I suspect you're right, but does Oracle JDK really add any appreciable value over OpenJDK, for a student? I'd go for OpenJDK simply to form good habits.
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#37Re: Oracle’s Java 11 trap
#38I'm not sure Java is worth the effort at this point. If I'm going to have to keep updating every 6 months, I would rather use Go, which seems to have all that Java has to offer + the backing of a huge corporation.
Java also has a multi decade history of remaining backwards compatible across major version upgrades. Barring known exceptions for things explicitly being removed, I don’t see that changing.
Re: Oracle’s Java 11 trap
#39My hat is off to Larry E. with respect to his business prowess. But. ding ding ding. alarm bells. Run away. Don't mess with that guy. The dude owns an island: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanai https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-04-13/four-seas... Stick with free/open source. Vendor lock in is a nightmare. edited for clarity.
Re: Oracle’s Java 11 trap
#40I'm not sure Java is worth the effort at this point. If I'm going to have to keep updating every 6 months, I would rather use Go, which seems to have all that Java has to offer + the backing of a huge corporation.
Er... Well, I'm with you for a different reason than updating... I'm thinking that Oracle is just shifting the licensing ground too much for my comfort.