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Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Alarm apps don't need tracking. Asking Google Assistant to set an alarm needs tracking. I wish there was a SaaS application which provided assistant capabilities by a monthly subscription. You can see all the data stored, you own the data the service just creates models to enable use. And you could stop the subscription which wipes all the data including the models. Perhaps some startup founder is reading this?

I'm expecting good things from Snips; they're already build a device like Alexa that runs all recognition locally: https://air.snips.ai/ Making an Android frontend seems easy enough. (You can also DIY by installing Home Assistant and Snips on a Raspberry Pi or other computer)

When will their commercial products release?

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In a way stuff like this and the recent news that they don't delete their own cookies from Chrome when deleting all cookies could be good news. It seems to become clearer and clearer that Google is getting desperate to squeeze more and more data out of people in order to sell that data. Hope they will lose their good guy image because now they are just another big greedy company like all others. Nothing wrong with th…

Why on earth would you think Google would sell its most valuable asset? Google does not sell user data, it builds on it. The more data they get, the better and better their AI will develop. Looking back, when they announced they were going to become an AI-first company these sort of drastic data-grabs and privacy issues should have been apparent. But hindsight is 20/20...

> they were going to become an AI-first company these sort of drastic data-grabs

I'm appalled every time I'm asked to train Google's object detection networks in the guise of solving a captcha.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Wait... What? You don't mind telling Google where your home is, but you mind it tracking your online activity? Shouldn't home address be more sensitive?

For many of us home address is not very sensitive information. What we do online can be. It’s not just what Google knows about you. If your account is compromised, attacker may be able to download all historicsl information and share it with everybody.

Why not use client-side encryption for all that?

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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But google are great. This is a feature of their online service. They need all your information in order to sell it so others can search and find it. Or something.

If your argument starts with "sell your information"-like FUD, it's difficult to take anything you say serious.

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I can’t even ask my phone to set an alarm anymore without giving it my entire web and app history. Google is vulnerable here as they’re creating a very real need for basic alternatives

I switched my assistant app to Cortana, if you can believe that. It works well enough, and doesn't require every permission to be enabled. It'll work fine with whatever you give it. (Within reason. It can't give you information about your calendar unless you give it that permission, etc.) Reminders and such get synced to my PC. There are, of course, many holes in its functionality... hoping it gets better. Don't know…

How did you completely get rid of Google Assistant on an android phone? Did it involve rooting it?

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alarm apps don't need tracking. Asking Google Assistant to set an alarm needs tracking. I wish there was a SaaS application which provided assistant capabilities by a monthly subscription. You can see all the data stored, you own the data the service just creates models to enable use. And you could stop the subscription which wipes all the data including the models. Perhaps some startup founder is reading this?

I'm expecting good things from Snips; they're already build a device like Alexa that runs all recognition locally: https://air.snips.ai/ Making an Android frontend seems easy enough. (You can also DIY by installing Home Assistant and Snips on a Raspberry Pi or other computer)

Yes, snips is pretty well known in the maker community. They're adding blockchain tech to double down on the whole privacy aspect of it, it seems. Wonder if they can break through to the mainstream.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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But the funny part is Google keep your saved addresses. It only block the access. If you have your home and/or work address set in Gmaps, and you disable all tracking in myactivity.google.com. The address will disappear and GMaps will invite you to reactive App and Web tracking. If you do it, your saved addresses will reappear. This is slightly dodgy.

> This is slightly dodgy. It is punitive. They are (and are within their rights to) withholding value because you aren't giving them what they want, which is mineable activity information. I notice that there are always cartoons of happy users getting additional useful features from their services when tracking is enbled, but never cute cartoons of the other actors extracting value based upon advertising etc. Truth I…

This is dangerous ground to tread for Google.

If data were kept in this fashion under a GDPR right to erasure request, Google would face some hefty fines.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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But the funny part is Google keep your saved addresses. It only block the access. If you have your home and/or work address set in Gmaps, and you disable all tracking in myactivity.google.com. The address will disappear and GMaps will invite you to reactive App and Web tracking. If you do it, your saved addresses will reappear. This is slightly dodgy.

There is another interesting thing. You need to allow google tracking if you want to do searches in google maps. If you block it maps will crash. Turns out it needs a proper country code to work, regardless of where you're searching.

Works for me ..

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Youtube is even more fun if you don't want to make a channel. They've made the website "add to playlist" button redirect to the channel creation page. I can't even put things on "watch later", the one playlist youtube has deigned to allow me to have.

My ‘watch later’ seems to have a problem catching videos. I add videos and they are gone from there. I created my own ‘Watch Now’ playlist, which consistently works.

This might be due to the fact that corporate shitheads decided to take down one of the videos you added.

I've seen such videos transform into [video removed] in custom playlists (which is infuriating to no end, you can't even know what the video was about to look it up somewhere else), maybe it causes videos to disappear from Watch Later entirely.

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