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Am I the only one that feels Shazam is no longer relevant? I don't think I know anyone has iShazam or SoundHound installed anymore. I feel all our music is on our phones now, so we already know what it is.
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Google Now natively supports song detection in surroundings. It is also pretty good at it, and Google will do it passively without ever needing to open it as an app. I used Shazam a long time ago, so dunno how it had changed, but it certainly isn't a novel idea.
Google Now won't detect music for you outside the US (Shazam does)
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I agree with you, and I work in music audio signal processing. Shazam was founded in 1999-2000 ish and was live by 2002, longer ago than many people realise. The fingerprinting method they used was a novel one, and they successfully deployed it in a couple of years, with a database of two million tracks, in a system that could be used by dialling a number from any phone. It's an extraordinary and rare example of taki…
Philips had similar technology that predates Shazam. That said, Shazam's algorithm scales better as they use "combinatorial hashing". This coupled with the fact they can up the hashes in a key-value table makes them better.
This is a really nice paper as well, but the Shazam method is more exciting because of its focus on the search part of the problem. Audio fingerprinting wasn't an entirely new field of course - the Philips paper also cites several prior publications.
The big limitation of all these methods is that they are robust to EQ and other degradations but not at all to variations in timing between frames. So they work well for identifying different instances of the same recording, but not at all for matching different performances, or for "query-by-humming".
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They're also rare for anyone over 30 to care about (if not the situations themselves, what some random soundtrack to them is). Give it time...
Yup. I too completely lost interest in music when I hit 30 /s
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They're also rare for anyone over 30 to care about (if not the situations themselves, what some random soundtrack to them is). Give it time...
Other people might be different from you.
1) That I've lost interest in music myself (I didn't).
2) That whether some other people might not lose music was disputed. Perhaps you imagined me as some strange creature in a cave that has never heard or known of people that maintain their interest in music to their late age.
3) That the fact that some other people don't lose interest in music is relevant. I was making a general statement ("it's also rare"). Most people do lose interest in music compared to their younger years. That's not some fringe claim, it's borne out by buying patterns and studies. People tend to stick to the music of their youth time and again. Even the new artists they discover tend to be of the same genres and styles in vogue when they were younger.
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> This "feature not a product" belief only makes sense if you pretend that the product doesn't provide the answer sought by its primary user It also makes sense if the scope of the product is not enough for it to make anyone pay for it (except as part of a larger product).
People don't pay for social networks either.
That's not the case for an app you might take out a couple of times a day (at best) to check some tune for 10 seconds.
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> As a DJ constantly looking for tracks to add to the collection. I listen to streaming music pretty constantly. For individual tracks with all of the metadata, the artist/track name info is provided. For listening to other DJ mixes, you just get the DJ name and mix name. Shazam tells me the specific track. So a pretty narrow demographic for the feature though...
>So a pretty narrow demographic for the feature though... If you're only going to take one person's usage then, yeah, I guess it's pretty narrow. How about another example for from the same person. As a video editor I'm constantly having to find "hip/trendy/cool" music for video edits. These clients typically like music that I do not normally listen to, but I know it's something they would like when I hear it. I'll l…
How about it? We've just added video editor looking for cool music to DJ. We could add tens such cases more, but all those combined are still narrow demographics.
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> As a DJ constantly looking for tracks to add to the collection. I listen to streaming music pretty constantly. For individual tracks with all of the metadata, the artist/track name info is provided. For listening to other DJ mixes, you just get the DJ name and mix name. Shazam tells me the specific track. So a pretty narrow demographic for the feature though...
Diabetes apps have a narrow demographic too. What's your point?
Also, diabetes narrow? 30 million have it in the US, I'd say those are way more than DJs that need to recognize tunes, and have much more motive to use an app that helps them keep track of something that can have huge impact on their health...
Shazam is the one app that has been around since about the birth of the iPhone that honestly still blows my mind in it's capabilities. The fact it can so quickly figure out any song in so many environments is incredible. Call me simple, but I use it almost daily, and it is accurate close to 98% of the time. I absolutely love Shazam's iOS app, and they have done a great job keeping up with UI/UX treads for it over the…
My experience with shazam is that it finds about a quarter of the tracks I'm looking for. It's really really incredibly good at finding anything that airs on the radio or exists in spotify. But outside of that the results drop off quickly.
On a sidenote: It's surprising that Google isn't more useful in those searches either. Often I have to search for rare releases by relying on lyrics and Google's results are plain terrible. I understand that the lyrics are probably nowhere listed and idnexed, but considering that even the rarest releases are uploaded by someone on Youtube, some kind of auto transcription feature would be very helpful.
Sure, it's a niche interest, but the Discogs user base is still huge.
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Other people might be different from you.
A correct statement based on three wrong assumptions. 1) That I've lost interest in music myself (I didn't). 2) That whether some other people might not lose music was disputed. Perhaps you imagined me as some strange creature in a cave that has never heard or known of people that maintain their interest in music to their late age. 3) That the fact that some other people don't lose interest in music is relevant. I wa…