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Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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There was a lot of uproar about this internally but nothing changed. They told us that this was the only "practical" option. The company has rotted.

> The company has rotted. It has always been the plan, it's literally their business model.

Yeah, I read some posts from a former employee. The ad model was there from day 1 and people can't just act like Page and Brin are brilliant yet failed to see the potential for harm in their business model.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Why are people surprised when a company that fundamentally doesn't believe in privacy does these kinds of things? Edit: quote removed -- see child comments.

Why don't you post the rest of the quote as well? > I think judgment matters. If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines -- including Google -- do retain this information for some time and it's important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot…

The reality is that I don’t want a search engine in my phone.

Maybe it wasn’t the case when he said that quote, but the story here is they’re trying very hard to blur the line between their services and the device itself, in some very awkward ways that don’t make a lot of sense except except beyond their own business needs

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Or did we misunderstand it all along? I think yes. Google has been considered "evil" by the tinfoil hat crowd for quite some time, and once again it has become apparent to the mainstream that they were right.

Google died when Smith said you have no privacy now[0]. Well I have no Google now. Fallback almost never used. [0] can't find actual quote, did I dream? Quoth: “We know where you are. We know where you’ve been. We can more or less know what you’re thinking about”

The quote I know along those lines is from Scott McNealy.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you uninstall Google Maps from an android phone? It's because that private corp is so big that it is starting to control much of the internet and devices so this is an issue very much in the public purview. It's not as simple as take it or leave it. The corp in question spends billions to insinuate itself into your life, make you dependant, eat competition, and then you can take it, but you definitely can't leave…

Yes, that starts with "leaving it". Though some found my comment above irritating, the more people use these apps or try to make it "their way", these corps won't go anywhere. Yes, either you take it, or leave it. Imagine everyone leaving google today. They can't make money. People made them rich, people can take them down. If genpop doesn't understand, you have to find your own ways to navigate thru the internet bec…

>Yes, that starts with "leaving it"

You're right, but the percentage of Google users aware of how evil they are is probably less than 0.5%.

An overwhelmingly large percentage of users won't care about what could happen as long as nothing happens directly affecting them. Mass surveillance companies like Google, Facebook know this and take advantage of it.

Technology activists aren't strong enough to start a wave that would lead to people abandoning these evil corps..

Also, as others mentioned, they eat up all competition.. so there aren't really any good options left apart from Google products in areas they compete.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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I can’t even ask my phone to set an alarm anymore without giving it my entire web and app history. Google is vulnerable here as they’re creating a very real need for basic alternatives

I agree. I'm not concerned with Google's vulnerability, but for most of my own usage, it's pretty low hanging fruit to recreate the basics. Will be interesting to see how things progress.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Or did we misunderstand it all along? I think yes. Google has been considered "evil" by the tinfoil hat crowd for quite some time, and once again it has become apparent to the mainstream that they were right.

Google died when Smith said you have no privacy now[0]. Well I have no Google now. Fallback almost never used. [0] can't find actual quote, did I dream? Quoth: “We know where you are. We know where you’ve been. We can more or less know what you’re thinking about”

I think you were dreaming of this, perhaps?

https://www.eff.org/nl/deeplinks/2009/12/google-ceo-eric-sch...

I'm surprised that people keep being surprised about Google being just another company. Money first, money last.

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