Powerful and absolutely stunning work. This, _this_ is investigative journalism in the modern era.
I think it’s worth noting that, as despicable as some of their work can be, Anon pioneered this kind of digital forensic work.
Anatomy of a Killing
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but why? They're up there fighting Boko Haram -- this is a war-torn part of the world. Why is the Cameroonian military killing the people they're charged with protecting? It's something I'd really like to know, after reading through this. I don't understand anything but the most superficial issues facing this region, and it rather shocked me that the national military that's up there to quell the Boko Haram insu…
The french population doesn't like the English population. The English part is a minority and feel like a 2nd class citizen in their own country. A lot of them are being killed, you can google these answers. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-44459488/cameroon-c...
This is seriously about what language they speak?
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It all started with a tip that gave them the general area _though_ You've made this point twice in the comments. What are you getting at?
Just that the investigation hinges on decidedly non-technical/novel methods. It is an interesting news story and presentation but isn’t as unique as I think people who just skimmed the twitter thread might assume.
So we’re just going to dismiss the fact that they used social media to get the tip in the first place?
It’s incredible boot leather investigative journalism in 2018 and doesn’t need to be qualified. What are you? A paper salesman?
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#104A brilliant piece of work to place the location. On the other hand, this seems to be...below...the BBC: " The government statement makes clear that all these men enjoy the presumption of innocence, and that they will be given a fair trial. " " The two women killed outside Zelevet received no trial at all. " No presumption of innocence was extended to the children who died with them. "
Media has a responsibility to present all facts impartially. But that does not mean that news media don't also have a responsibility to put those facts into context. Especially when it concerns the weak vs the strong (civilian victims vs violent government). That is what they are doing here. There is no encouragement to mete out revenge. It is juxtaposing the due process the alleged perpetrators will face with the lack of due process their victims suffered.
By the same token, if soldiers alleged of a war crime were found to have suffered from a miscarriage of justice, I'd expect the BBC to cover that side too—and I expect they would.
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#105Incredible bit of analysis and presentation. It's hard to watch this sort of footage for me now. Once upon a time when I was younger I could handle it, but with young children the same sort of age it really tears me apart. Though, I think people should be forced to confront it, because it's the only way it's ever going to improve.
> but with young children the same sort of age
Same for me, just one thing:
> Though, I think people should be forced to confront it, because it's the only way it's ever going to improve.
Assuming you can't force anyone to feel empathy, you'd be punishing (and demoralizing) the emphatic and annoying (at best) those that don't care.
Be careful what you want to force on others.
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#106It's fascinating to me that all the information required for the analysis is publicly available. This seems like a big shift from an era when only an intelligence agency would have been able to perform this sort of analysis.
If you like this then you’ll appreciate these guys:
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#107It's fascinating to me that all the information required for the analysis is publicly available. This seems like a big shift from an era when only an intelligence agency would have been able to perform this sort of analysis.
The "open source intelligence" report on the MH17 incident -- where people found social media videos of the Buk missile proceeding through the countryside before being used to down the passenger jet -- was super interesting in a similar vein: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2015/10/08/mh1...
> https://www.bellingcat.com/
This site is unreliable, its full of bogus claims regrading or example Syria (author of the site is supporting the Kurdish rebels for example).
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#108That's some real life CSI stuff.
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#109This answers all the questions but why.
Does it really matter? That's not the way to deal with even the most vicious of criminals, let alone his child.
Obviously. Does it matter whether such killings are systemic or incidental? It think it does.
For the particular case it might not but for general reaction it does.
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#110Incredible bit of analysis and presentation. It's hard to watch this sort of footage for me now. Once upon a time when I was younger I could handle it, but with young children the same sort of age it really tears me apart. Though, I think people should be forced to confront it, because it's the only way it's ever going to improve.
> but with young children the same sort of age Same for me, just one thing: > Though, I think people should be forced to confront it, because it's the only way it's ever going to improve. Assuming you can't force anyone to feel empathy, you'd be punishing (and demoralizing) the emphatic and annoying (at best) those that don't care. Be careful what you want to force on others.
Indeed. I meant that in a less literal sense.
Was thinking more about it for myself - these innocent kids were mercilessly killed, and I should at least take the time to acknowledge their suffering, even if it’s uncomfortable for me.