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Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

#121
Pretty much. Companies are good until they star leveraging their market position. Either you give us everything, or you can't do basic things.

A work around was to create a G Maps link on my phone with directions to an address (e.g., home).

But honestly, I took the plunge and carry around a feature phone now. Haven't missed the smartphone much.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

#122

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Not even joking, I rear ended someone while trying to dismiss the "USE OUR APP" popup that comes when you navigate via maps.google.com instead of the phone app.

User error. Don't use your phone while driving.

I wasn't in any real sense. Until of course the view of my next turn was obstructed... Are Uber drivers "using their phone"?

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

#123

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Why on earth would you think Google would sell its most valuable asset? Google does not sell user data, it builds on it. The more data they get, the better and better their AI will develop. Looking back, when they announced they were going to become an AI-first company these sort of drastic data-grabs and privacy issues should have been apparent. But hindsight is 20/20...

I believe it's now common to use "sell your data" as a synonym of "make profit off data" or "sell a service that gives anonymized data".

That may be an explanation, but IMO there's a huge difference between the two, and putting both concepts under the same wording is dangerous. Selling data means surrendering any and every control over it, and if from a user (trust) perspective there's no difference to offering a service based on data, companies will choose the more lucrative one.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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There was a lot of uproar about this internally but nothing changed. They told us that this was the only "practical" option. The company has rotted.

From the outside, it seems to have reached a tipping point in the past year that is now getting quite dramatic. A whole string of heavy-handed, anti-user, and privacy-hostile decisions. What just happened to the culture that would allow all this evil behavior? Or did we misunderstand it all along?

Or did we misunderstand it all along?

I’m really curious, what did you think their business model was going to be given they have free services?

Surely the path they are on is the obvious one?

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

#125
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In a way stuff like this and the recent news that they don't delete their own cookies from Chrome when deleting all cookies could be good news. It seems to become clearer and clearer that Google is getting desperate to squeeze more and more data out of people in order to sell that data. Hope they will lose their good guy image because now they are just another big greedy company like all others. Nothing wrong with th…

Why on earth would you think Google would sell its most valuable asset? Google does not sell user data, it builds on it. The more data they get, the better and better their AI will develop. Looking back, when they announced they were going to become an AI-first company these sort of drastic data-grabs and privacy issues should have been apparent. But hindsight is 20/20...

They became the "Alpha Bet" to be AI top dog - betting to be on top....

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

#126

Dark patterns seem to be becoming standard UX for Google now. I notice so much of it all over their products.

There is nothing dark about this, they are doing this in plain sight, there is very little people (who wants to use Google services*) can do about it. Even GDPR looks more and more toothless as days go by and nothing happens to obvious violators and it only covers European users of course.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the outside, it seems to have reached a tipping point in the past year that is now getting quite dramatic. A whole string of heavy-handed, anti-user, and privacy-hostile decisions. What just happened to the culture that would allow all this evil behavior? Or did we misunderstand it all along?

> Or did we misunderstand it all along? I think yes. Google has been considered "evil" by the tinfoil hat crowd for quite some time, and once again it has become apparent to the mainstream that they were right.

Google died when Smith said you have no privacy now[0]. Well I have no Google now. Fallback almost never used.

[0] can't find actual quote, did I dream?

Quoth: “We know where you are. We know where you’ve been. We can more or less know what you’re thinking about”

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

#129

There was a lot of uproar about this internally but nothing changed. They told us that this was the only "practical" option. The company has rotted.

> The company has rotted.

It has always been the plan, it's literally their business model.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

#130
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You've posted about your essays dozens of times now. That's crossing the line into spamming, and other users are complaining. Please stop now.

I try to stay on topic, but sometimes I do make mistakes.

Actually, you've been doing it for many months: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=yuhong&next=16828059. This is clearly abusive, so if you keep doing it we will have to ban you. No more comments about your essays, please.
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