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Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

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Post by inapis »

carapace wrote: post #194
spectrum1234 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I generally agree. However without ads, how do you expect poor people to have (free) access to radio, magazines (well, cheaper), antenna tv?

Poverty should be over soon. Twenty to thirty years max.

Doesn’t mean ads will die. Even if you pull everyone out of poverty, there’d be plenty of people who might not have cash to spare or even be unwilling to pay for all the content they consume. Plus there’s the slightly increased friction to paying compared to not paying and viewing ads. You have to make an active effort to pay, especially with micro-transactions, every time.

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

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Post by pilif »

statictype wrote: post #180
tptacek wrote: post #2

Like Eric Law[1], I felt like while there were some rough spots in the UX for the Chrome login and sync features, the issue was very overblown (I'd feel very differently if sync had been enabled automatically). I don't have much more to say than Law does --- except maybe that when your arch-competitor is speaking out on your behalf , maybe the narrative has gone a little haywire. I figured Google would do something c…

The sync thing was overblown. The cookies thing was a bit more concerning to me. Not so much from a privacy angle but from more of a 'Chrome has lots its way' angle. A lot of our software's more complex interfaces are Chrome-first since its faster to develop - yesterday was the first time I made a serious consideration to change that approach. Glad to see they are listening to user feedback and reacting quickly.

The cookies thing could be seen as a bug: the button does remove the cookies, but because your google sign in state is now tied to the browser sign in state, new cookies will immediately be set.

To fix this, the “remove cookies” button would also have to sign you out of chrome which would also feel weird from a UX perspective.

All in all I think this was just released a bit early before all UX edge cases could be tackled (or even discovered. Sometimes you find things only in wider rollouts)

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

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Post by nachtigall »

rckclmbr wrote: post #216
golf1052 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recommend the Google container as well https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-contai...

I actually use Chrome for everything Google, and Firefox for everything else. It's a constant reminder that I need to stop using Google services. I don't open it much anymore, just to check my gmail which still has a few emails going to it, and to find my android whenever I lose it.

Does gmail really not work in another browser like Firefox? Seriously? How is this possible?

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

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Post by theon144 »

statictype wrote: post #180
tptacek wrote: post #2

Like Eric Law[1], I felt like while there were some rough spots in the UX for the Chrome login and sync features, the issue was very overblown (I'd feel very differently if sync had been enabled automatically). I don't have much more to say than Law does --- except maybe that when your arch-competitor is speaking out on your behalf , maybe the narrative has gone a little haywire. I figured Google would do something c…

The sync thing was overblown. The cookies thing was a bit more concerning to me. Not so much from a privacy angle but from more of a 'Chrome has lots its way' angle. A lot of our software's more complex interfaces are Chrome-first since its faster to develop - yesterday was the first time I made a serious consideration to change that approach. Glad to see they are listening to user feedback and reacting quickly.

>A lot of our software's more complex interfaces are Chrome-first since its faster to develop - yesterday was the first time I made a serious consideration to change that approach.

Heh, I wonder if the next privacy blunder from Google will make you further reconsider your "voluntary vendor lock-in" approach :)

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

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Post by unilynx »

kettlecorn wrote: post #23

Everyone seems to be arguing the utilitarian merit of this feature, but I just don't like what it signals for Google's approach to the web. They're building in features that integrate their browser into their web pages. As far as I'm aware no other major browser holder has done anything of that sort, but I'm probably missing some examples.

IE's NTLM authentication, which can integrate with your Windows login, might come close.

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

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Post by ankka »

nachtigall wrote: post #233
rckclmbr wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually use Chrome for everything Google, and Firefox for everything else. It's a constant reminder that I need to stop using Google services. I don't open it much anymore, just to check my gmail which still has a few emails going to it, and to find my android whenever I lose it.

Does gmail really not work in another browser like Firefox? Seriously? How is this possible?

Almost everything runs just fine in Firefox.

Google software seems to be chrome-optimized, but it's usually only slightly slower on Firefox - it still works.

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

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Post by rckclmbr »

nachtigall wrote: post #233
rckclmbr wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually use Chrome for everything Google, and Firefox for everything else. It's a constant reminder that I need to stop using Google services. I don't open it much anymore, just to check my gmail which still has a few emails going to it, and to find my android whenever I lose it.

Does gmail really not work in another browser like Firefox? Seriously? How is this possible?

It works fine in Firefox, I do it for the intentional isolation. To me, chrome browser is "google browser"

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

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Post by dingaling »

scarface74 wrote: post #171
ajmurmann wrote: post #132

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How can an advertisement not be bad? Ultimately it's always the goal to get someone to buy something they otherwise wouldn't. Even if you catch someone when they are already are looking to buy a product from your category you are trying to get them to buy your product instead of the competitor's. What would be helpful to the user in that moment is a product comparison that's honest and unbiased and not an advertiseme…

There are a lot of products that I’ve either bought, recommended, or put up on my “list of things I’ll keep in my mind if I’m in the market” based solely on ads - mostly podcast ads: BackBlaze - I think is s great service. Hover: Anything is better than Godaddy. Linode: I’ve recommended it to people who wanted cheap hosting. Casper: recommended to a college student. His parents were happy with it. SquareSpace - anyti…

> Eero - I don’t need it, but if someone asked me what to get, it would be the top of mind.

I think that illustates the OP's point well; you don't have need or experience of the product, but the psychological infiltration of ads means that you'll recommend it anyway.

Re: Product Updates Based on Your Feedback

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Post by walterbell »

School-Cotton wrote: post #76
danShumway wrote: post #30

Unfortunately, Chrome 70 is also when `www` subdomain is slated to get re-hidden, and when web audio breaking changes are slated to get re-introduced. There's just too much to keep up with at this point. I'm happy about this change, it's a big move in the right direction. But it doesn't give me any confidence for the future. It's crazy that users have to do this every single release. It can't continue like this. I ha…

A Google representative has claimed on the domain hiding bug report that the change is shelved due to the feedback. Edit: Permalink to the relevant comment: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=883038...

The URL hiding change is NOT reversed or shelved, only delayed:

> Thanks for the feedback so far. We plan to collect additional feedback, particularly about the enterprise use case, before launching the feature. We will not be launching the "www" elision in M70.

Note: “before launching” the feature post-M70.

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