Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by balladeer » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:37 AM UTC

hylianwarrior wrote: post #37

maxxxxx wrote: post #18

In a way stuff like this and the recent news that they don't delete their own cookies from Chrome when deleting all cookies could be good news. It seems to become clearer and clearer that Google is getting desperate to squeeze more and more data out of people in order to sell that data. Hope they will lose their good guy image because now they are just another big greedy company like all others. Nothing wrong with th…

Why on earth would you think Google would sell its most valuable asset? Google does not sell user data, it builds on it. The more data they get, the better and better their AI will develop. Looking back, when they announced they were going to become an AI-first company these sort of drastic data-grabs and privacy issues should have been apparent. But hindsight is 20/20...

They don't have to give the raw tracking data to some other entity. They can sell decisions based on my data they collect.

Then can tell you to try to sell cycle headlamp to me because I have been looking for it in last fews days. I'd say that's selling my data.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by hellbanner » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:38 AM UTC

digitaLandscape wrote: post #26

There was a lot of uproar about this internally but nothing changed. They told us that this was the only "practical" option. The company has rotted.

Their UX continues to g et worse. Google Voice on iOS has had 10-20 second lag (no joke) on older versions of iOS (used to be jus fine!) for 1-2 years now. One previous version of GV in particular froze for 10 seconds on your first key press, now I can't rely on it to open properly, or send messages. It seems intentionally sabotaged.

I heard employees quit when G merged the YT with "real name" accounts.

Personally I've had a real pain getting support for android development. Wrong and misleading documentation, rude forum moderators, no way to report a bug (they have a bug where Payments page will show errors -- in Incognito Chrome) -- on the admob site. Solution was to sign up for Adwords (how could I tell?) and check the page in Safari or sign into Adwords on Chrome. Shit documentation. Help your developers earn you money better, Google. And stop changing your UI. It looks like they have low-tier coders who get hired with not enough power to rock the boat so they roll out a UI re-vamp no one wants without bothering to fix systemic problems that repeatedly kill products, break products and have a completely INSULTING policy towards their developers. Admob: "You can't even complain to us without earning enough money.. here's a phone number.. it literally never connects." Why even bother? I interpret that they hate me. The feeling is mutual.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by JoshMnem » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:38 AM UTC

dpq wrote: post #54

JoshMnem wrote: post #40

Why are people surprised when a company that fundamentally doesn't believe in privacy does these kinds of things? Edit: quote removed -- see child comments.

Why don't you post the rest of the quote as well? > I think judgment matters. If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place. If you really need that kind of privacy, the reality is that search engines -- including Google -- do retain this information for some time and it's important, for example, that we are all subject in the United States to the Patriot…

Thanks for posting the rest of the quote. I'd remove my comment, but I can't because there are replies. I still think that the company fundamentally doesn't believe in privacy. I will remove the quote at least.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by hellbanner » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:39 AM UTC

techntoke wrote: post #5

This! They used to allow you to, but now I don't save my home address and can't use a lot of Google features because they want you to enable activity tracking. WTF... why do I need all my activity to be tracked to use basic features?

Because they hate you. What other explanation is there?

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by balladeer » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:42 AM UTC

snaky wrote: post #56

calebh wrote: post #42

Looks like Apple needs to run another 1984 ad during the Superbowl.

Super Bowl now streaming live on Sina Weibo, so it might be problematic.

Is the US football (not soccer) that popular in China or lots of Americans use Sina Weibo?

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by scalablenotions » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:49 AM UTC

Dark patterns seem to be becoming standard UX for Google now. I notice so much of it all over their products.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by balladeer » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:49 AM UTC

dmitrygr wrote: post #44

yipbub wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you uninstall Google Maps from an android phone? It's because that private corp is so big that it is starting to control much of the internet and devices so this is an issue very much in the public purview. It's not as simple as take it or leave it. The corp in question spends billions to insinuate itself into your life, make you dependant, eat competition, and then you can take it, but you definitely can't leave…

Yes you can easily uninstall it

Can you please tell us how unless it's a custom ROM/non rooted Android phones? (Not disabling)

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by ux-app » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:49 AM UTC

esaym wrote: post #25

I won't give them my home address any way. If I want directions to "my house", I google an address on a block down the street.

they still know where you live. Your phone stops moving for 8 hours in the same spot every night. That's where you live. Unless you also leave your phone in a neighbor's letter box in which case you fooled 'em good.

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by snaky » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:49 AM UTC

balladeer wrote: post #65

snaky wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super Bowl now streaming live on Sina Weibo, so it might be problematic.

Is the US football (not soccer) that popular in China or lots of Americans use Sina Weibo?

Neither. NFL just want to push it so much.

> The stakes are high for the league's bid to tap the enormous potential of China's 1.4 billion people. NFL is pushing tie-ups with more than a dozen platforms on regular television and online to help reach viewers, even at rush hour, Richard Young, managing director for NFL China, told Reuters in recent interviews.

https://www.businessinsider.com/r-super-bowl-goes-social-as-...

Re: Google Maps won't let you save home address without allowing all Google tracking

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Post by jorblumesea » Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 4:56 AM UTC

digitaLandscape wrote: post #26

There was a lot of uproar about this internally but nothing changed. They told us that this was the only "practical" option. The company has rotted.

Most large companies have a "jump the shark" moment where business needs and biz dev take over the engineering/product side and starts running the show unilaterally. It becomes less of an equal affair and more dictating terms.

Microsoft's was in the 90s in the os/browser wars.