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Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by gjm11 »

prolikewh0a wrote: post #560
Sharlin wrote: post #109

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There are really very few things Chrome is better at than Firefox these days.

Firefox doesn't even have default zoom (last I checked).

Do you mean Firefox doesn't have a way to return the zoom level to its default? (It has two; you can do ctrl-0 or you can click on the zoom-level indicator in the URL bar.)

Or do you mean you can't tell it to default to a zoom level that isn't 100%? (That seems to be true.) I confess that's never a thing it's occurred to me to want; it feels like if I wanted every website's text to look larger or smaller, I'd probably want everything to look larger or smaller and would adjust my OS's scaling level. But I know some OSes handle that better than others, and maybe there are good reasons for wanting different scalings for websites than for everything else. Still, it's not clear to me that this is so obviously important a thing that "doesn't even have" is fair.

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Post by Notorious_BLT »

kbenson wrote: post #575
ehosca wrote: post #509

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H1-B is modern day slavery.

> H1-B is modern day slavery. Eh, there's a power imbalance, but let's not go overboard. They are offered a good job with good pay in another country. That means they have less power in negotiations, and may be deported, but they don't lose the money they earned, and it's not like they are being exiled to some foreign place, they are literally sent home . Nobody's freedom is being taken away, and nobody's rights are…

Being sent "home" when you've been living and working in another country for possibly years at a time doesn't really make it any better. You don't necessarily have a "home" wherever you came from.

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Post by platz »

bradleyankrom wrote: post #591
dev_dull wrote: post #587

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Hackernews needs it’s own version of infowars where people can declare and believe in their most absurd and cynical conspiracy theories regarding tech.

as long as it also pushes dubious health supplmenets

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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by HelloNurse »

talltimtom wrote: post #360
orcdork wrote: post #139

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That feels like whitewashing part of the blame that applies to engineers and product developers. We don't get to say "oh it's those pesky money people, how dare they", while drawing a salary from the same pockets.

Yes we do. Just like Tesla employees get to critizise Musk for his Twitter market manipulation while still working their day job and drawing a sallery, and Americans can criticize Trump whithout moving out of the country. Just because you are a benefitting part of an organization, it doesn’t mean you cannot disagree with management and if you disagree it doesn’t mean you have to quit or stop being critical.

Twitter market manipulation is entirely Elon Musk's fault, not something Tesla and its employees are responsible for (except, perhaps, for some inner circle who might have stopped him). On the other hand, the newly revised Chrome is a core product: disagreeing with management but allowing it to be distributed isn't enough.

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Post by daveFNbuck »

dev_dull wrote: post #587
Pxtl wrote: post #565

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I assume this is the engineering at work. "Okay, users are confused by how they're logged into Google but not Chrome, or Chrome but not Google - let's make them one and the same". "Okay, but once you're logged into Chrome now, every post we check to see if we have the Google cookies to keep that sync... so that means when you clear the cookies the Google ones will automagically reappear" "Ugh, let's just notify the u…

Hackernews needs it’s own version of infowars where people can declare and believe in their most absurd and cynical conspiracy theories regarding tech.

What makes this a cynical and absurd conspiracy theory? Is it that cookies are being kept so as to not break browser login, or that the decision-making was driven by software engineers?

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Post by reidrac »

I had to leave Firefox for Chrome at the office because Meet and Hangouts; I missed this: https://blog.mozilla.org/webrtc/firefox-is-now-supported-by-...

Since Firefox 60 you don't need Chrome for that, so I'm back to Firefox. Firefox isn't perfect, and that was OK because there was always Chrome. Now it starts to feel like it is Firefox or nothing, which isn't ideal.

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Post by mattferderer »

codethief wrote: post #450
mattferderer wrote: post #387

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You should first ask, can I & others change the company from within. Many people credit a small group of Microsoft employees for getting the company to embrace open source. This group grew from within as I'm told.

> Many people credit a small group of Microsoft employees for getting the company to embrace open source. This group grew from within as I'm told. I've been wondering how this transition came about. Do you have more information on that (e.g. an article or a blog post that you could refer me to)?

Just years of seeing them credited in random forums & social media sites.

Quick Google Search:

Credits Hanselman & Guthrie - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8596268

AMA w/ Hanselman mentions it being 10 yrs ago - https://hashnode.com/ama/with-scott-hanselman-cjbx98jh506b34...

This article might be exactly what you're looking for - https://thenewstack.io/microsoft-finally-came-around-open-so...

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Post by jchung »

sveme wrote: post #174
Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #99

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This can happen if somehow sync got enabled when you signed in. Sync kicked in, noticed a mismatch between your current setup and the one you had set up many years ago while testing the “sign into chrome” process and set your setting to the one in the cloud. It’s caught me out a couple of times too.

Sync is disabled by Corporate IT by default. Not suggesting any malevolence, just wanted to check whether anyone else experienced a similar suspicious event as well.

Curious now about how exactly your Corporate IT team is disabling sync by default. Especially given the change as described. Possible to elaborate?

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Post by close04 »

braythwayt wrote: post #317
darkcha0s wrote: post #308

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Are you really comparing a software developer completing tickets based on requirements to Nazis being told to kill? The fact that you need to draw that comparison tells me you are going overboard.

No, I’m not comparing engineers at Google to prison camp guards. I’m comparing the argument that the Google engineer is just following orders to the argument that camp guards were just following orders. I’m not the one who brought up the exact same defense. But if that defence is brought up, Perhaps the person emplying that argument should be asked if they meant to make the comparison indirectly by using the same arg…

Your argument is wrong in every regard that matters and this is in no way comparable to the military.

The contract you sign when you get the job tells you to follow those instructions. And you have laws that say that you can be a whistleblower if they are illegal. Well this may be immoral or unethical but it doesn't strike me as illegal. So your only option is to refuse the implementation and quit your job.

Is the problem solved? No. Then that wasn't a solution and the responsibility wasn't on the engineer's shoulders. When you have a leaking pipe staining the wall don't blame and just repair the wall. Fix the pipe.

You're letting some irrational anger/hate cloud your judgement and it shows. You came up with a comparison with Nazis (!!!) and nothing anywhere close to reasonable opinion on who's really to blame and what the solution is. You're the guy who hates the person in the call center for following those questionable and possibly abusive scripts. Obviously it's on them.

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