If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
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If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
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Re: If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
#2probably not a popular opinion but I think the best way to reduce your carbon foot print is not to have children
Re: If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
#3probably not a popular opinion but I think the best way to reduce your carbon foot print is not to have children
True, but taking your argument to it's logical extreme suicide would work even better.
Re: If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
#4probably not a popular opinion but I think the best way to reduce your carbon foot print is not to have children
I don't particularly care about the planet, but I agree with you. What irks me more is that there is an element of consent involved with birth. Life is mostly suffering and struggle for the majority, and it is a mean thing to bring someone into existence and have them deal with the meaninglessness and misery that is existence, all by themselves so.
And what happens when they can't cope, or they don't follow the rules, or they simply want to exercise their freedom to cease to exist? We end up blaming them.
It's all very absurd.
Re: If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
#5probably not a popular opinion but I think the best way to reduce your carbon foot print is not to have children
It doesn't matter: We know this isn't something that the world is going to do. This isn't really something viable and for most of history, has been something necessary for survival. Not only that, but it would seem better to get the overall birth rate down since the goal of no more children isn't really something to look forward to (though it should be a viable choice). It really is better to look at the other options that provide more reasonable solutions.
We aren't really in danger of the population dying out, but we do have a need to balance out population and get health care (including birth control and other family planning) around the globe. For this, we need generous immigration policies and folks willing to redistribute money or otherwise spread these things.
Re: If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
#6probably not a popular opinion but I think the best way to reduce your carbon foot print is not to have children
True, but taking your argument to it's logical extreme suicide would work even better.
No, it's successfully and continuously convincing others to suicide by any means necessary.
And it's not the logical extension by the way. Not creating is not the same as destroying.
Re: If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
#7they begin the article by saying pasture raised, organic meat is better for the environment than single-crop, fertilizer grown crops, through a reduction in emissions and and increase in biodiversity and health of the soil. It does not compare it to the obvious alternative of more sustainably grown crops, using crop rotation, cleaner sources of energy for farm equipment, etcetera.
Re: If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
True, but taking your argument to it's logical extreme suicide would work even better.
No, it's successfully and continuously convincing others to suicide by any means necessary. And it's not the logical extension by the way. Not creating is not the same as destroying.
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Re: If you want to save the world, veganism isn’t the answer
#10"unless you’re sourcing your vegan products specifically from organic, “no-dig”"
Then veganism could be the answer?