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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Worked for me. Switched to FF because I just can't trust Chrome anymore. FF feels like a breath of fresh air.

I really puzzles me how could anyone have ever trusted Chrome.

I've never trusted Chrome but it was (and still is to a degree) faster and more secure than Firefox, so here we are

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Seriously don't know why anyone is surprised that a browser built by an ad-tech company pushes the user tracking tech of that company. Just use Firefox and have done with it - there's been a series of these kinds of posts over the last couple of days with people suggesting insane workaround hacks instead of just changing their browser. P.S. if you keep chrome because some websites only work properly there, maybe y'al…

Dropping chrome is not enough. Switch to bing (Just as good as G), or ddg if you really want. Then ditch android which is the spy in your pocket. If you're installing G analytics for clients then choose an alternative (I'm open to suggestions here).

It's really time to disentangle ourselves from google. They've quietly and effectively insinuated themselves across the web. Enough is enough.

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Another confirmation that engineers and product developers are no longer in control at Google.

Engineering and product first is how Google won the game initially, very easy to forget that when the money rolls in massively and the power structures move away from those driving forces.

Microsoft already went through this engineering/product growth to bizdev/marketing control to stagnation and is already in the return to engineering/product first phase. Basically their own Ballmer era is what Google is entering.

Bizdev + marketing are hugely important, but the products and engineering need to be the focus. It is much easier to bizdev and market a product and engineering led system/focus, though success through this is always forgotten when massive success comes around because engineering/research and development are hard to quantify and put metrics to which the power structures move away from.

Let's hope there are factions of engineering/product focused people in Google that can gain back control.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Worked for me. Switched to FF because I just can't trust Chrome anymore. FF feels like a breath of fresh air.

Yup, same. Switched to ff and bing. Was surprisingly frictionless. Next week I'll be off gmail too. Up yours google. The week after, I'm getting rid of my android phone. I'm a high school IT teacher and have some influence over hundreds of students each year. I've already started to sprinkle in some discussion about privacy and will be sure to inform my students about the issues. Of course I won't brow beat my studen…

What will you replace gmail with?

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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If an organisation gets to a certain size, is it inevitable that it will eventually turn bad and disregard it's end-users' interests? Is this just the nature of the beast?

"The goals of the advertising business model do not always correspond to providing quality search to users."

http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Yup, same. Switched to ff and bing. Was surprisingly frictionless. Next week I'll be off gmail too. Up yours google. The week after, I'm getting rid of my android phone. I'm a high school IT teacher and have some influence over hundreds of students each year. I've already started to sprinkle in some discussion about privacy and will be sure to inform my students about the issues. Of course I won't brow beat my studen…

What will you replace gmail with?

FastMail looks like a good option!

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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If an organisation gets to a certain size, is it inevitable that it will eventually turn bad and disregard it's end-users' interests? Is this just the nature of the beast?

You are getting it backwards. Google regards its end-users interests alright. You are just misunderstanding who the end-users are.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Are they trying to promote Firefox or something? Chrome seems to be trying quite hard to annoy people enough to actually uninstall it.

Worked for me. Switched to FF because I just can't trust Chrome anymore. FF feels like a breath of fresh air.

Can I import my Chrome passwords into FF?

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Are they trying to promote Firefox or something? Chrome seems to be trying quite hard to annoy people enough to actually uninstall it.

It's hubris. Right now Google know they have the power to shape things the way Google want. That's true, but it's also true that users are more powerful than Google, becoming increasingly aware of the value of their privacy, and that Chrome is paid for with their data.

In the the end, it is just a problem of privacy VS features.

And to be honest, unfortunately, I think most of the average users just want features.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Only a small fraction of Chrome's user base will notice, and not even all of those will care. There are likely tech-savvy people reading this on Chrome 69 right now.

Office of 20 here. Now almost everyone's in agreement that we'll move off Chrome. And we'll recommend our families and friends do the same. This is how Firefox (pre-bloat) gained traction at the expense of IE, and this is how chrome gained traction at the expense of Firefox/IE. And now this is how chrome's market share will decline as tech leaders, journalists and then the public find out how much of a privacy nightm…

I'm slightly annoyed.

I just made the commitment to move back to Linux from Windows 10 last week.

I was hoping to at least stick with chromium, now I'm reconsidering that.

Now that I think about it, should I really be trusting Android? Is iOS any better? Apple does appear to show some commitment to privacy, but their anti repair stance is crazy. Will I have to switch to custom Android ROM with all the Google services neutered?

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