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Why I’m done with Chrome

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Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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post #455

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It was never fully dropped, just de-emphasized. Silly: Thinking that Google wants to go do evil, but needs to drop a value statement first (to do otherwise, goes against the Code of Evildoers)

Having the CEO call the idea "stupid" and removing it from the code are a bit more than de-emphasis.

It was never removed from the code. You seem to think it was, and that the media attention made them add it back.

Try to find a snapshot of the code that does not include it (I can only find snapshots with it, so that won't suffice as proof).

About Eric Schmidt (who I won't defend) the full quote and context ("a casual jokey interview"):

> "The idea was that we don't quite know what evil is, but if we have a rule that says don't be evil, then employees can say, I think that's evil," Schmidt said. "Now, when I showed up, I thought this was the stupidest rule ever, because there's no book about evil except maybe, you know, the Bible or something." In the end, though, he believes it has worked, by giving employees a way to point out things they find unethical.

Subtle but it is there: The former CEO does not think that doing no evil is stupid, he thinks using a rule like that, without properly defining evil was stupid. Then he changed his mind.

Compare with the JSLint license that states: "the Software shall be used for Good, not Evil." You can find that rule stupid and vague, while acting like Mother Theresa.

> "As Google (and some others) interpret it, this additional requirement constitutes a vague use restriction and thus makes the license non-free. Chris [DiBona] explained that if I were to remove that line from the license and 'return to a proper open source license that we support,' then jsmin-php could stay on Google Code.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Stylish addon can do this. Install it then use userstyles website to find the custom script you need.

Stylish apparently had spyware problems after being bought by another company.[1] Stylus[2] is the fork. [1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/chrome-and-fi... [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/styl-us/

So I must write a css for the zoom to work?

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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post #738

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The title and domain is not the only thing that matter for Google’s ranking.

Right - of course. So the question is: are the other "things that matter" designed to: 1) Inform the user and help the user quickly find facts, narratives, and meaningful content related to the search phrase? 2) Sell things? 3) Promote modes of political control by narrowing the scope of acceptable thought and connection between search phrase and content? We all hope for #1. We all accept #2. But I think that most of…

Try Googling the term "white couple" as an image search - you will be provided with a page of interracial couples, not white couples. Not that I have a problem with interracial couples, my own family is interracial. But it's obvious how Google is attempting to influence the perspectives of it's users.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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post #668

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Safari doesn't support WebGL2 and probably never will because of Apple's stance on OpenGL. Disqualifies it for me and I've had to tell customers that I can't support it, even if they'd pay for it.

It’s on in Safari Technology Preview: https://webkit.org/status/#specification-webgl-2 We have no particular stance against it, though I agree with the other poster that WebGL is more the future.

Ah, that's good to hear. WebGL2 has lot's of useful features, glad to see Safari is going to support them, too.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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Google started going down the path I would describe as an "evil" path years ago. I'm glad people are starting to notice. I used to be a huge Google advocate, up until about 2008. So many things have changed since then. Adsense was the first breach in trust for me, when they banned my account for no reason and ruined any chance of every monetizing my content...since they are basically a monopoly in that area. Getting…

If we'd ban targeted advertising, this would take away the perverse incentives, and we could help transform Google and other companies into something better. I'd say let's start with a petition.

I'd prefer to tax rather than ban ads. Ads are like (indeed contribute to) carbon emissions, not murder.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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This is wrong - you can inject arbitrary scripts and styles: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safariservices/saf...

You didn’t reply to or contradict anything they said. You need Xcode to build extensions and Safari has a super limited API. Executing JS and CSS don’t address either.

He didn’t say limited, he said nonexistent.

More specifically, if you can inject scripts I don’t see why you couldn’t call window.close()

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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post #750

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Search for "gun rights" in Google, and the Wikipedia feature box on the top-right of the results page is the Gun Control article. I've noticed the straight search results making a marked decline in quality over the past few months. If one of the keywords within your search is anything remotely profitable, it will drown out all other terms. Then the search results ended after ~4 pages. Definitely changed from the Goog…

I wonder if you're in your own filter bubble. As in, if some full blown NRA guy searched gun rights, what would he get?

Logged out of any Google account from a work IP address (not used for much personal searching) and I get the same result.

Info cards are not influenced by your account's history as far as I know. They are purely programmed by a combination of bots and hand tweaked responses. The hand tweaked responses come from a combination of user complaints/requests and internal pushes by engineers.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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post #657

Google started going down the path I would describe as an "evil" path years ago. I'm glad people are starting to notice. I used to be a huge Google advocate, up until about 2008. So many things have changed since then. Adsense was the first breach in trust for me, when they banned my account for no reason and ruined any chance of every monetizing my content...since they are basically a monopoly in that area. Getting…

> But if you deal directly with Google ad sales (and this is something I never knew existed tbh) they will intentionally screw you if you are under a certain spend. Any more details on this?

I'm interested in this as well. My current company uses AdWords directly and is almost certainly below that "certain spend". I'm suspicious that we might be getting taken to the cleaners too, but not sure the co-founder would believe me.

Re: Why I’m done with Chrome

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At little off-topic, but in a similar vein I had been waiting and hoping for Google Fiber to show up in our neighborhood. I was mostly of the mindset that Google, of all ISPs, would be the most Net Neutrality-friendly provider.

Meanwhile, AT&T showed up first with their gigabit fiber offering, and I signed up for it. Google still hasn’t come through despite earlier promises, and I’m increasingly glad they haven’t. I’m not suggesting that AT&T is perfect. They’ve had some significant shortcomings in the privacy area themselves. I’m simply saying that I no longer view Google in the simplistic terms I once did. They are a complicated organization with seemingly conflicting priorities.

For the same reason, I’ve also switched away from using their 8.8.8.8 DNS. My wife is on Duck Duck Go, but I haven’t been able to make that leap myself (yet).

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