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Re: Hide your real name in Open Source

#51
On one hand I understand what's being said, but on the other hand I'm not sure the author is paying attention to the endgame here. So you hide your open source work, or charity work and get a high paying job at an investment bank -- an investment bank that's worried that you might not be "committed to the job" if you work on open source.

Does the author understand what kind of "commitment" they are talking about? Do they understand why investment banks pay the kind of money they pay for software developers?

If it were me, they'd be damn right that I'm not "committed". Why do you write open source software? Why do you work for charities? Because you are free to do so!

In my youth, I gave up my freedom in order to work. I will never do that again. It was a mistake for me. I think it is probably a mistake for anyone who loves their freedom. It's a mistake for people who want to be free to help others when others need help, not when the office allows it (which will be never, BTW).

Yeah, you can sell out, and for some people it's probably incredibly worth it. But if you judge the value of your life by what you do rather than what you receive in compensation, then I really don't think you'll be happy with that trade-off.

YMMV.

Re: Hide your real name in Open Source

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Hiding your real name in Open Source and using a multitude of pseudonyms instead is plainly bad advice for most people. Yes, you will be covered for that one employer that will not like your OSS profile. But you are giving a hard time to the majority of the employers who will have to jump through the hoops you've set to get a picture of your OSS contributions. Also, what would be the reaction of a recruiter reading a…

> Yes, you will be covered for that one employer that will not like your OSS profile. But you are giving a hard time to the majority of the employers who will have to jump through the hoops you've set to get a picture of your OSS contributions. They will have to jump hoops only if you dont want them see it. Otherwise you just include link in your CV and they dont have to jump anything. > Also, what would be the react…

> They will have to jump hoops only if you dont want them see it. Otherwise you just include link in your CV and they dont have to jump anything.

If you apply for a niche position with > I can see why recruiter would think "weird", I dont see why he would think "self-important, a tinfoil hat wearer, or an outright liar".

That's just a few different shades of "weird" as a person.

The resume is all the recruiter knows about you at that moment. Do you really want any "WTF"/"weird" spots in it? This is setting up the board for the recruiter to make the (subconscious) deduction "weird resume" -> "this may be a weird person". They may or may not do it, but it surely won't get your resume any points.

Re: Hide your real name in Open Source

#53
This sounds like the investment banks are reacting to the Goldman Sachs case against Sergey Aleynikov, either they want to avoid someone “stealing” their code, or they just don’t want to have to deal with that kind of situation. It’s certainly not right, but if you work in that sector, it’s something you need to be concerned about and take these kinds of attitudes into consideration.

Re: Hide your real name in Open Source

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Generally decent advice. I like my privacy and I use handles everywhere I can, I've even worked remotely and the employer didn't know my real name until they had to send the first paycheck :) The reasoning in the article seems weak tho. I would guess the author is lashing out after a bad interview or something.

It depends on what you do. If your identity and participation in public activities is integral to why you're hired, you don't really have an option to keep everything private. Personally, I decided long ago that if I'm not comfortable saying or doing something using my true name, I probably don't need to say or do it. Yes, that's a somewhat privileged position to be in but nonetheless it's the case for me.

> Yes, that's a somewhat privileged position to be in but nonetheless it's the case for me.

It's important that we're conscious of that privilege, because we're the ones who build the IT systems for those who don't have it.

Re: Hide your real name in Open Source

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, you will be covered for that one employer that will not like your OSS profile. But you are giving a hard time to the majority of the employers who will have to jump through the hoops you've set to get a picture of your OSS contributions. They will have to jump hoops only if you dont want them see it. Otherwise you just include link in your CV and they dont have to jump anything. > Also, what would be the react…

> They will have to jump hoops only if you dont want them see it. Otherwise you just include link in your CV and they dont have to jump anything. If you apply for a niche position with > I can see why recruiter would think "weird", I dont see why he would think "self-important, a tinfoil hat wearer, or an outright liar". That's just a few different shades of "weird" as a person. The resume is all the recruiter knows…

> But if they are flooded with applications, no they won't; they can safely bet that there is another applicant with similar qualifications and more accessible OSS presence.

That is quite unlikely. You are overestimating amount of programmers with non minimal oss presence. And, if they are flooded they won't search you by name. They might maybe click on cv link.

> That's just a few different shades of "weird" as a person.

That is small price for having control, really.

Re: Hide your real name in Open Source

#56
Using pseudonyms is never a bad idea but even when I did this in the past I've had to many near misses of uncovering myself because I fucked up some git config, or had the wrong browser tab open or just replied to a tweet from the wrong account.

I admit it, I'd be the world's worst spy. Too honest and too clumsy.

Re: Hide your real name in Open Source

#57
I never found a company which would judge OSS contributions negatively and I've seen quite a few of them (I tend to change job very often and I've 10+ years of working experience).

I am wondering whether the author of the blogpost considered the option that what they were telling him was just an excuse. Maybe the problem is not his OSS but the fact that the author behaviour in the community is not exactly as brilliant as he may think and that made him a controversial figure?

Of course, being anonymous means you can start any flame you like, treat people as you want and get away with it; not sure that that's the best way to achieve less toxic communities anyway.

Re: Hide your real name in Open Source

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I'm hedging as much as I can here. That is certainly not the case, but I would consider that question right there to be critical to good introspection and growth as a person. "If everyone hates my opinion, is that the wrong opinion to hold so dearly?" It's certainly worth honestly considering if most people think your opinion is terrible.

Yes, I'm sure folks hiding jews in their attic in Nazi Germany would have been better off had they just decided to go with the flow. It is worth being introspective, but you should keep in mind the fact that an opinion being popular has very little to do with whether it's right. Reality is also that the vast majority of people don't care about the politics that get people ousted from OSS projects. It's more along the…

Maybe your opinion is actually terrible, have you considered that? Not everything is a vocal minority, especially not if your scope is "all of OSS"

Re: Hide your real name in Open Source

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Lots of people used their real name on the internet early on. Some didn't, especially if discussing particularly sensitive or controversial things, certainly, but most of my early conversations online were with people using their real names. When I first got on irc in '94, I often exchanged name and phone numbers with people within hours of talking to them, and more than once I met people in real life within hours of…

> Some didn't Most didn't. > When I first got on irc in '94, I often exchanged name and phone numbers with people within hours of talking to them, and more than once I met people in real life within hours of talking to them. But you didn't use your name as your nick did you? I never did. The same thing with BBS. > The panic over people giving out their real name started first years later No. Even before the media gen…

> Most didn't.

Directly counter to my experience.

> But you didn't use your name as your nick did you? I never did.

Many of us did, many didn't but left their real name readily accessible by e.g. making our e-mail visible and having Finger enabled.

> The same thing with BBS.

Most of the BBS's I used asked for real names, and from meeting people at BBS meets I know most of the people I spoke to on BBS's were truthful.

> No. Even before the media generated panic ( of primarily AOL ), you weren't encouraged to use your real name. Of course after you talked to people and got to know them, nothing stopped you from exchanging numbers. But that wasn't the norm.

Again, completely counter to my experience. You weren't "encouraged" in most cases, so much as copied what other people did, and most people around me used our real names all over the place.

> I can't believe you brought up irc. There is a reason why in irc you used your "nick". The culture of irc was anonymity. IRC clients and many channels discouraged using your real name.

Not the ones I spent most of my time on. That became more prevalent later, and in certain circles. Certainly if you were spreading warez etc., yes.

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