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Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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If you are willing to run your own, have a look at. https://poste.io/ I'm currently evaluating and running this myself for about 2 Months now. Really working great so far. The guys have very quick response to error reporting. Everything run via docker on a aws small instance.

An completely free version could also be: https://mailu.io/

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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Which service is best? The one you roll out on your own, in your rack, on your own servers in the basement. Unfortunately, configuring a complete end-to-end e-mail solution in 2018 is an incredibly complex affair. The hardest part is the SPAM filtering. On the command line, I use pine with the maildir patch; in the browser, I recommend the open source version of "eGroupware", a complete replacement for Microsoft Outl…

Is there a good turnkey solution for this, and other services? I mean not with my own physical servers, but I'd pay to have an image with mail all set up and other services, like remote storage, etc, all ready to go and plop it on ec2 or something.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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FastMail. It's one of the few third party hosts to support push email on iOS with the native Mail app (it's a custom protocol based on APNS), since Mail doesn't implement IMAP IDLE [1]. They are also the main sponsors behind the JMAP protocol [2] and some open source projects such as the Cyrus IMAP server. [1]: https://fastmail.blog/2016/12/21/what-we-talk-about-when-we-... [2]: https://jmap.io

We switched our company to fastmail recently, largely on the strength of recommendations here. No regrets.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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ProtonMail's security is formidable, but the messages are encrypted in such a way as to not be searchable. If security is your concern and long-term search isn't, consider giving them a go. Great mobile app, too.

Their "end-to-end" encryption claims as well as their schtick about being hosted in Switzerland make it abundantly clear that I will never trust their security. I would go so far as to use almost any other major email provider over ProtonMail.

I'll bite.. Please explain further

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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Yeah I completely agree this is something that needs consideration. I do have an email address with my own domain but for security reasons any accounts I create are tied to my gmail address. I've known too many people who have had personal domain email addresses intercepted, particularly through compromised domain/DNS settings. One simple MX record adjustment could mean every single bank account, social media profile…

> I do have an email address with my own domain but for security reasons any accounts I create are tied to my gmail address. I've known too many people who have had personal domain email addresses intercepted, particularly through compromised domain/DNS settings. If your Gmail account is lost or compromised, good luck getting any help from Google; while G Suite support is decent, free Gmail account users are basicall…

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Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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If you need strong privacy, then go to ProtonMail. Otherwise, try https://yandex.com . For personal domains you can use https://connect.yandex.com , which is free (with ads) for unlimited users or $3 per user per month (available in several countries) without ads. I've been using Yandex Connect for quite long time (free and paid). They are very good. Yandex Connect goes with Email (fully unlimited), Cloud Storage, Wi…

I tried signing up for yandex a few months ago. I made an account, and I was able to gain access to their email service. However, I couldn't actually receive mail or send mail that went anywhere. From what I can tell, there's no guarantee they will actually activate your account when you sign up.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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FastMail. It's one of the few third party hosts to support push email on iOS with the native Mail app (it's a custom protocol based on APNS), since Mail doesn't implement IMAP IDLE [1]. They are also the main sponsors behind the JMAP protocol [2] and some open source projects such as the Cyrus IMAP server. [1]: https://fastmail.blog/2016/12/21/what-we-talk-about-when-we-... [2]: https://jmap.io

Switched to Fastmail many years ago when self hosting became too time consuming for me. Never looked back. I had to use their support only very occasionally and even then their reaction time and competence were outstanding. They do just one thing - email - and do that very, very well.

They do another thing: calendar. And I find it at least as good as Sunrise Calendar was before Microsoft shut it down.

Re: Ask HN: Best alternative to Gmail?

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I've just gone the other way. Having recently moved from macOS to Windows, I couldn't find a single mail client that I am willing to use daily. I'm now forwarding my hosted IMAP to a gmail account, simply in order to use the gmail web client. I do admit this is kind of sad.

Claws mail? Thunderbird? Outlook? Mailinabox? None of those work?
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