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News Site to Investigate Big Tech, Helped by Craigslist Founder

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Re: News Site to Investigate Big Tech, Helped by Craigslist Founder

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This looks awesome.

>"The site will explore three broad investigative categories: how profiling software discriminates against the poor and other vulnerable groups; internet health and infections like bots, scams and misinformation; and the awesome power of the tech companies. The Markup will release all its stories under a creative commons license so other organizations can republish them, as ProPublica does."

Also, anyone interested in the high-level question of how technology impacts society is likely to enjoy the only non-fiction book written by one of my favorite authors: The Blind Giant, by Nick Harkaway.[1]

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/970091634

Re: News Site to Investigate Big Tech, Helped by Craigslist Founder

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Perhaps their first investigation should be on why they need $23 million to create a niche site.

How much do you think it costs to employ 30-40 of the following people for 5 or 10 years?

“reporters and junior reporters, data journalists, researchers, copy editors, line editors, and an assistant managing editor. Graphics editors and designers, a social media editor, a reach/engagement editor, a partnerships lead, developers, and an analytics lead. A Chief Revenue Officer, a Chief of Finance and Administration, and a person to lead business development.”

https://themarkup.org/jobs.html

Re: News Site to Investigate Big Tech, Helped by Craigslist Founder

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post #4

Perhaps their first investigation should be on why they need $23 million to create a niche site.

How much do you think it costs to employ 30-40 of the following people for 5 or 10 years? “reporters and junior reporters, data journalists, researchers, copy editors, line editors, and an assistant managing editor. Graphics editors and designers, a social media editor, a reach/engagement editor, a partnerships lead, developers, and an analytics lead. A Chief Revenue Officer, a Chief of Finance and Administration, an…

And during that time there's no revenue? I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted: as a publisher of multiple online and offline projects it seems an extravagant amount for a publication that has a very narrow scope.

Re: News Site to Investigate Big Tech, Helped by Craigslist Founder

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Perhaps their first investigation should be on why they need $23 million to create a niche site.

I know you’re being downvoted for snark but I’m going to take a shot at answering this anyway.

In a world where Value is measured in Value in news these days is entirely dictated by the Cost By Impression there’s a huge gap in getting news that’s hugely valuable for only a small audience. In this case it may be an audience of one but he’s apparently willing to both fund the work and share the findings and that’s better than nothing. Perhaps it’s better to ask why people aren’t willing to pay a few bucks to know where their data is going everyday and why we need a single benefactor to make up the difference?

Re: News Site to Investigate Big Tech, Helped by Craigslist Founder

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much do you think it costs to employ 30-40 of the following people for 5 or 10 years? “reporters and junior reporters, data journalists, researchers, copy editors, line editors, and an assistant managing editor. Graphics editors and designers, a social media editor, a reach/engagement editor, a partnerships lead, developers, and an analytics lead. A Chief Revenue Officer, a Chief of Finance and Administration, an…

And during that time there's no revenue? I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted: as a publisher of multiple online and offline projects it seems an extravagant amount for a publication that has a very narrow scope.

Value isn’t always measured in revenue or the size of the audience.

Re: News Site to Investigate Big Tech, Helped by Craigslist Founder

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> [news articles will] start going up on the website in early 2019.

I really can't wait for this to take off sooner!

> Ms. Angwin compares tech to canned food, an innovation that took some time to be seen with more scrutiny.

Technology has become a boon in many ways and improved people's lives significantly, but we also seem to be heading toward a future that's completely controlled by a few powerful companies who won't (and after a certain point can't) stop being evil and making huge groups of people further disadvantaged because of said technology.

This site's emphasis on combining technologists with journalists is much needed.

I only hope it can survive the long term and that readers will support it. I for one will be looking forward to the content and supporting it monetarily or otherwise.

Re: News Site to Investigate Big Tech, Helped by Craigslist Founder

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much do you think it costs to employ 30-40 of the following people for 5 or 10 years? “reporters and junior reporters, data journalists, researchers, copy editors, line editors, and an assistant managing editor. Graphics editors and designers, a social media editor, a reach/engagement editor, a partnerships lead, developers, and an analytics lead. A Chief Revenue Officer, a Chief of Finance and Administration, an…

And during that time there's no revenue? I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted: as a publisher of multiple online and offline projects it seems an extravagant amount for a publication that has a very narrow scope.

It's a non-profit, so probably not much if any advertising, and they'll likely be drawing a lot from ProPublica's model in terms of organization, impact, and growth. ProPublica's annual expenses were over $12 million in 2016, and if you're interested you can get a rough breakdown of where that goes in their 990:

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/142...

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