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Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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Rather just use Firefox. Its an insanely good browser.

Everyone keeps saying this, I think it's time for me to switch. How are the dev tools compared to Chrome?

They are mostly the same. I think they look better on Firefox.

Firefox has no websockets inspector which chrome has but it does have a CSS grid view tool which chrome doesn't have. There was a bunch of new improvements to the Firefox dev tools recently but I haven't checked them out yet.

Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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Rather just use Firefox. Its an insanely good browser.

Especially for Firefoxes container functionality. >Allows you to sign in to two different accounts on the same site. Allows you to isolate your sites from one another, by containerizing tabs. Allows you to avoid leaving a social networking footprint to keep those sites from tracking you. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techrepublic.com/google-amp...

Funny you mention avoiding tracking while pasting an AMP link.

But yeah the containers are fucking amazing. I use them for development to log in as multiple user types at the same time.

Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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Especially for Firefoxes container functionality. >Allows you to sign in to two different accounts on the same site. Allows you to isolate your sites from one another, by containerizing tabs. Allows you to avoid leaving a social networking footprint to keep those sites from tracking you. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techrepublic.com/google-amp...

Funny you mention avoiding tracking while pasting an AMP link. But yeah the containers are fucking amazing. I use them for development to log in as multiple user types at the same time.

Yep this is actually a killer feature for development and more than makes up for the polish difference in dev tools imo.

Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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Rather one could attempt a protest of a higher denominator, for less effort, by using a non-Chrome-compatible browser, which also does more potential good in the long run by giving webmasters any reason to give a care for browsers that aren't unilaterally controlled by Google.

So for the past two weeks, there have been "hotel workers on strike!" protests in Chicago. They've been outside banging pots and pans, blowing whistles, and generally making a lot of noise to raise awareness for their cause. Are you sure that quietly switching to Firefox is more effective than saying "Fuck you Google, I took your product and made it my own. Here's how anyone else can do the same thing. Stop abusing y…

Standing up to Google by using Chromium is akin to standing up to Ford by buying an F-150 and removing the blue Ford nameplate. Google's investment in Chrome exists to give them leverage over the web platform, which is opposed by the marketshare of all non-Chrome-compatible browsers, which is not increased by using Chromium.

To reiterate, there are plenty of good reasons to use Chromium or forks thereof, but that only continues to further, not oppose, Google's stranglehold on the web.

Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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Everyone keeps saying this, I think it's time for me to switch. How are the dev tools compared to Chrome?

They are mostly the same. I think they look better on Firefox. Firefox has no websockets inspector which chrome has but it does have a CSS grid view tool which chrome doesn't have. There was a bunch of new improvements to the Firefox dev tools recently but I haven't checked them out yet.

Not advocating browsers either way, but as someone working a lot with css grids lately, chrome does have this tool. Hovering over any element that has a grid-area style, or a grid-template-* style will display the full grid on the page.

Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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why not Safari? Or is the issue non-MacOS OSs

I use Epiphany (aka GNOME Web) and it's like Safari: a minimal WebKit-based browser with no Google integration, but it's cross-platform, open source, and features Firefox sync integration for history/bookmarks/passwords/etc. I can't recommend it enough.

And it does have a built-in ad blocker.

Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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“It also features some changes” says to me that this isn’t a safe fork to recommend to others. Rather than simply releasing a de-badged instance of the public Chrome product, it additionally includes “editorial” comments in the form of turning various switches on or off. Use at your own risk.

if they transparently list out the changes (rather than force someone to diff the source), then it's OK.

Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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why not Safari? Or is the issue non-MacOS OSs

That's a pretty significant issue. "Oh, it's a great browser! No, it doesn't work on 95% of computers."

but it only needs to work on _your_ computer (or whoever you're making the recommendation to).

Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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Especially for Firefoxes container functionality. >Allows you to sign in to two different accounts on the same site. Allows you to isolate your sites from one another, by containerizing tabs. Allows you to avoid leaving a social networking footprint to keep those sites from tracking you. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techrepublic.com/google-amp...

Funny you mention avoiding tracking while pasting an AMP link. But yeah the containers are fucking amazing. I use them for development to log in as multiple user types at the same time.

I think the only thing that's missing is allowing the containers to sync with Firefox Sync with a client-side passphrase. I don't want to lose all of that "work" I've put into carefully separating websites into their own containers when I switch to another machine or re-install the OS, etc.

Also, it should be easy to "reset and switch" a website from one container into another while leaving no traces that it's been in another container. I often load a website in no container or in another container, and then I use another plugin to switched it to where it should be. This should be a default feature.

Re: Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration

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C'mon. People are trying to stand up to Google. It's important to encourage this behavior, or at least not spread FUD with unsubstantiated claims of insecurity. EDIT: Lol, Google employees swarming HN on a Sunday. I guess people are getting a little nervous that a mass exodus from Chrome might be beginning. Hey look ma, an unsubstantive complaint about downvotes! Can't wait for my account to be penalized further.

It would be really great if you could follow the guidelines instead of posting like this. Would you please?

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18053831.

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